Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
I can't believe this. Their name kinda betrays them, though. I mean, Christian? Okay, I'm cool with that. Leadership? Okay, walking into dangerous territory. Southern? Whoa! Screams stupid extremists.
Guess it just goes to show you what members of the SCLC support in their spare time.
(Dog fighting, for those that didn't get it)
Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
I think it's absurd to assign such suspicion and hatred to the word "Southern" and not the word "Christian". Christians have been around much longer and perpetrated much more death, mayhem, and ignorance than the south could ever hope to.
Oh by the way, the whole slavery thing you're about to blame on the south? Yeah that was actually a christian thing. They quoted sections of the old testament to prove the god wanted white men to enslave black men. They were deeply religious people. Did it ever occur to you that christianity is a huge part of the reason the south is so insane?
Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
No, no, you misunderstand. I have no problem with southerners in general. It's only when combined with the word Christian that I think it's a problem.
Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
Now there's word that the SCLC have decided not to honor Vick after all. Reading the most recent story, it sounds like they never intended to honor him. Rather, they just invited him to attend their event, but he cannot because he currently cannot leave the state of Virginia.
The thing I heard several times in the new story is people asking us not to make a judgment on him until the court case is decided. And obviously, he is entitled to fair process before the law, just like everyone else. And when it comes to an organization like the NFL, whether they can take action without any sort of legal decision does get into a gray area. But I, as an individual, am entirely able to form a personal opinion based on the evidence available. For instance, do I have to believe that OJ or Robert Blake are innocent, just because a jury found them innocent? Of course not. That would be silly.
Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
OK ... link to article verifying that the group has backed off from wanting to honor Dogboy <lol>.
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/17591
EDIT: Here's another link: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7100910
Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
And Hitler used Darwin to justify his actions. This is the same argument which will take all of us nowhere, stop leading us there Bel.
Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
Oh look Beldaran turning it into another religious argument I can't wait to see how this turns out!
I still say, Beldaran, that if you'd look at the web site you see very faith-neutral wording and very little to do with Christianity itself. I mean by now I'm pretty used to most conservative groups being unafraid to have a mission statement like
Quote:
We strive to bring peace to men and women of all races through the loving power of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ the Nazerene, while spreading His message to all who have ears to hear and using the absolute fewest number of sentences as possible.
I don't see much of that there, which led me to my point that the term "Christian" was likely placed in the the name to cause those sitting on the fence to apply a divine importance to their goals.
Of course you are free to suggest that having the word "Christian" in your name automatically makes you a Christian group, in which case I continue to press my point that the existence of the Church of Jesus Christ, Scientist conveniently makes you a Christian since you claim to be a scientist and obviously Jesus was too.
Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
Well well well... seems as though Vick is close to admitting that yes he is guilty.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/13898519/detail.html
Imagine that!
EDIT: Seems Vick just can't win for loosing... South Carolina Inmate Hits Michael Vick With '$63,000,000,000 Billion Dollar' Lawsuit Alleging Al Qaeda Ties
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293268,00.html
Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
Okay... seems Vick has decided to accept a plea deal... of guilty! Duh!
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/20/vick/index.html
His defense lawyer had this to say: "Mr. Vick has agreed to enter a plea of guilty to those charges and to accept full responsibility for his action and the mistakes he has made. Michael wishes to apologize again to everyone who has been hurt by this matter," Martin's statement said.
It's about time a sports player admitted guilt and took the punishment for their actions/reactions.
Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
I'm still struggling to understand the sensationalism around this issue. I mean yeah, I disapprove of big professional athetes and their attitude and big pay.
But really, dogfighting is a really cool and exciting sport. Most countries don't have a problem with animal sports, and they have an important history in many cultures, like the Spanish bullfighting. That is some of the most entertaining stuff I've ever watched.
Most Americans are just too sensitive.