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You know, it's an interesting point. In perspective, I'd say that Dubbya isn't the worst president of all time, but he's definitely in the top five in my books (the other four being Reagan, Nixon, Harding, and Jackson). Bush and Reagan get in because of sheer ineptitude, Nixon and Harding are in because of their corruption and tainting of the Oval Office, and Jackson because he's just one evil sonuvabitch. Partly it's the fact that I'm part Native American, but mostly, it's just that Jackson puts Bush's "cowboy diplomacy" to shame, in terms of his attitude that the solution to every problem involved a gun.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and Beldaran, yeah, he didn't even scratch the surface with Bush, but then again, didn't even scratch the surface with a lot of these guys.
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I voted Jackson because of his support of Indian Removal, which primarily affected the civilized tribes in the southern US:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_civilized_tribes
At the time there were those within the US who argued that the American Indians ought to be allowed near equal status provided they adapted their societies to be more compatible with white western society, these five civilized groups successfully adopted many parts of American society and could rightly have been able to assert their equality, the Cherokee even appealed to the Supreme Court and won the decision that stated Georgia had no right to impose its laws on Cherokee territory. Instead, this lead to Jackson to begin legislation and a one sided treaty that lead to the forced removal of these tribes and this culminated in the trail of tears.
I've always despised Jackson because of this, even by some contemporary ideals in his time, he took the monstrous side. It disappoints me that Democrats include Jackson alongside Jefferson as examples of esteemed presidents in their party's history.
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If I recall correctly from some history class way back when, Jackson was a real scumbag.
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Democrats include ... Jefferson as examples of esteemed presidents in their party's history.
If Thomas Jefferson is a democrat then Ron Paul is a communist. It's pretty insane to view Thomas Jefferson as an icon of what the modern democrats value. If you showed Thomas Jefferson the size of today's federal government, he'd shit his face.
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Gotta be the corrupt Harding or Carter imho..also Lyndon Johnson's social programs have hurt this country immensely..my favs? Reagan, Jefferson, Teddy, and Jackson(he is from my state:)
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I picked Andrew Jackson, but G.W. Bush is pretty bad too.
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Why the hell would a Libertarian list Reagan among his favs? I mean, the man contributed more to government spending than any other president since God-knows-when. And frankly, I'm just appalled that you'd list Jackson as a fav. I swear, the man is a complete disgrace of a human being.
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Why the hell would a Libertarian list Reagan among his favs? I mean, the man contributed more to government spending than any other president since God-knows-when. And frankly, I'm just appalled that you'd list Jackson as a fav. I swear, the man is a complete disgrace of a human being.
I liked Reagan. I'm also torn on Andrew Jackson. He did some horrible things, but he also did some awesome things.
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I chose Reagan because...I really just hate him. Most political scientist claim that Harding was the worst president ever. I did a paper on this list that was made listing them best to worst, not on ideaology but on effectiveness.
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I'm Canadian so I don't know much about your presidents.
But based on what I read I believe that Herbert Hoover was the worst because he failed to stop the depression. Which IMO is worse than 9/11.