Re: Zelda Classic 2.11 Beta 16
Let's just get back to fixing bugs so if another attempt is made at implementing it in 2.5, we won't have to worry about fixing every other bug at the same time. It's already swamped enough as it is.
I'm *VERY* interested in seeing Z3 Scrolling. Moreso than even I could've ever imagined. This is particularly due to that amazing Parallel Worlds hack in GGD quite a few forums up from here. (Not to mention the Z3 engine as a whole. Man oh man, what an awesome force they would be.) But we just really have to focus on fixing the bugs that are already present before doing anything major like this. Even if it could be reverted back to 16c, .. or even if it could be finished flawlessly, (Which would be as amazing as seeing a double-headed Unicorn kissing the moon from the other side of Neptune.) it'd still be taking time from bug testing.
Re: Zelda Classic 2.11 Beta 16
...Because now, everyone will delete their quests so they can redesign everything to work with Z3 scrolling, then when it doesn't work out, they will have nothing. Great job.
Re: Zelda Classic 2.11 Beta 16
AH-HA! Why is it that my first assumptions are sometimes right? XD Seriously, I figured that's what it'd be, but... I NEVER THOUGHT THE DEVS WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO TRY MAKING IT! Thanks for telling, DFW. I'm sure that many people will be happy if it's made (even if it's super-buggy). But here's a good question: If Z3 scrolling is perfected, will ZC be renamed Z3C? I mean, think about it- Drowning and falling are being worked on, we have a ton of stuff from Z3, and jman's experimenting with Z3 Scrolling. If THAT gets in, we'd have just about everything we'd need to have an LttP Classic! O_o
Edit: By the way, Revfan, you're wrong. I, for one, won't use Z3 Scrolling much if it's implimented. Only times I'd use it in Realm of Mirrors is in dungeons. Seriously. Who would delete a ton of stuff they worked many days on in their quests just so they can use a cool new feature? ;) I know a lot of people who wouldn't do that, like Freedom. ESPECIALLY Freedom, that is.... :laughing: Then again, who LIKES building a ton of screens from scratch just because of a new feature?
Re: Zelda Classic 2.11 Beta 16
Re: Zelda Classic 2.11 Beta 16
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Revfan9
See what you did DFW?
:p Read my edit. As my parents have told me time and time again: It's bad to make assumptions. That's because they're usually wrong and give you a pain in the neck if you act on them when they are. You honestly can't say that people will do that just because Z3 Scrolling is something a lot of people want.
And don't get onto me about what I just said, okay ShadowTiger? I'm just trying to make a point. (Besides, I find it odd how people can be rude to me and no one will say anything about it, but the minute I'm rude to someone, whether on purpose or accidentally, I get a big warning from you. Nice. That just makes me angry.)
Re: Zelda Classic 2.11 Beta 16
I did nothing. From my perspective, if the devs are as smart as I know they are. People will not need to have to quit their quests to remake them for Z3 scrolling, but rather implement it already into quests already existing. That would make backwards compatibility AND the chance to update old quests a reality. No one has to trash anything should this feature even be executed flawlessly. You are worrying over nothing. And as I started earlier and must restate again: THIS IS NOT A SURE THING. So don't go freaking out that its gonna go in. Its just being experimented with.
Re: Zelda Classic 2.11 Beta 16
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Originally Posted by
pikaguy900
AH-HA! Why is it that my first assumptions are sometimes right? XD Seriously, I figured that's what it'd be, but... I NEVER THOUGHT THE DEVS WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO TRY MAKING IT! Thanks for telling, DFW. I'm sure that many people will be happy if it's made (even if it's super-buggy). But here's a good question: If Z3 scrolling is perfected, will ZC be renamed Z3C? I mean, think about it- Drowning and falling are being worked on, we have a ton of stuff from Z3, and jman's experimenting with Z3 Scrolling. If THAT gets in, we'd have just about everything we'd need to have an LttP Classic! O_o
Edit: By the way, Revfan, you're wrong. I, for one, won't use Z3 Scrolling much if it's implimented. Only times I'd use it in Realm of Mirrors is in dungeons. Seriously. Who would delete a ton of stuff they worked many days on in their quests just so they can use a cool new feature? ;) I know a lot of people who wouldn't do that, like Freedom. ESPECIALLY Freedom, that is.... :laughing: Then again, who LIKES building a ton of screens from scratch just because of a new feature?
1) Diverts attention from Bug Fixing.
2) We don't know the code as well as the devs. We can't assume that just because we're not using the Z3 scrolling feature, doesn't mean that something else seemingly unrelated won't be totally screwed up because of its mere presence within the engine. (Not the quest file, as per the quest rule. The whole engine.)
3) There are more than enough bugs in ZC already without adding new features.
4) See #1 and 3, then read #4 again. That should cause an infinite loop within this list. The longer you read that, the more you will realize that this features is best left for 2.5.
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Re: Zelda Classic 2.11 Beta 16
I really didn't have to have DFW saying anything to tell that jman2050 meant "something big will happen that will break a lot of things." It's nice to know what it is, of course. ;)
But seriously... I'd rather something like that waited until after 2.5. I want to see it myself... but PLEASE wait on trying to do it. Please, please, please, please, please wait on it. I am so sick of this plea falling on deaf ears.
Re: Zelda Classic 2.11 Beta 16
-100 points to DFW for being pedantic about our last convo :P
Regardless, I don't think I'm gonna go through with this. Just the preliminary preparations seem to be causing enough problems.
Re: Zelda Classic 2.11 Beta 16
yay -100 points for me! XD Oh well.