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trudatman
08-28-2012, 02:46 PM
HowHigh features:
>40 items
>10 dungeons
>200 overworld screens
~15 exclusive MIDI songs by Wolfo
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this quest should be considered to be rated PG-13.
little kids, make sure your adult guardians view and read this page before you do.
if you are past the age of being juvenilely influenced by my immaturity, read on...
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IN ORDER TO COMPLETE ALL OF THE MAIN OBJECTIVES OF THIS QUEST, YOU MUST PLAY IT USING ZELDA CLASSIC 1.90! a few of the other versions make the hardest enemies at least twice as hard (and nearly impossible to beat) and most of the other versions make some of the objectives impossible to complete and can get you stuck in ways that may require you to play again from the start in order to advance, so don't use builds other than 1.90 unless your computer can't run it. Zelda Classic 1.90 is a DOS program, so your computer needs to be able to run DOS games to use 1.90. after you have chosen a file/character name, pressing "alt" twice brings up a navigation menu window that allows you to browse in order to choose which quest file to load into the game program. I suggest using a controller and not the keyboard. I also suggest you set the controller up when the popup menu first allows you to. if you downloaded a copy of the quest before November 3rd, 2012, get the updated version linked below.*

this is the most recent version: HowHigh.qst (http://www.fileswap.com/dl/ewnAysYmDH/HowHigh.qst.html)/HowHigh.zip (http://www.armageddongames.net/zeldaclassic/download.php?file=HowHigh.zip)
this is the program you will need to run it: ZeldaClassic1.90 (http://www.shardstorm.com/zcmirror/zc190sr1.exe)

if you cannot run Zelda Classic 1.90, try: ZeldaClassic1.92b184 (http://www.shardstorm.com/zcmirror/zc192a184w.zip)
if you can't get any of the 1.9x versions running, knowing that the quest definitely won't run correctly and that you will not be able to complete the main objectives of the game without editing the quest yourself, you can try: ZeldaClassicBETASforWINDOWSandMACandLINUXcomputers (http://www.shardstorm.com)

here's the quest database page: HowHigh listing (http://www.armageddongames.net/zeldaclassic/viewquest.php?q=183)

please go to the database page and post a review, if you played a good bit into this quest. I'm very appreciative of the reviews and good ratings! if you can record video of your playing of this quest in 1.90, it'd be awesome if you did such a thing.

*the game is free. I don't profit from it and, by downloading, you agree not to, either. some of the tiles were taken from other games, but most have been uniquely modified. any perceived trademark is parodied or unintentional. if you have a problem with the game, don't download it and/or delete it from your computer. any possible adverse effects to your computer (and the systems networked with it) that may be the result of downloading and executing the file are your risks that are to be remedied at nobody's expense beyond your own.
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Wolfo made the euphonious soundtrack that is finally featured in the newest update. if you hear or see something that isn't quite right, please let me know about it. I'm not shy about resubmitting to the database with your fix help implemented. if you have ideas to improve the quest, please don't be shy.

here's a chapter summary (each of the titles really does say something about the content of the chapter) listing all items received except the map, compass, key and completion symbol from each chapter (each has each):

1 – SandBox:
Wooden Boomerang
Herb Jar And Spoon
Wooden Sword
Bombs
Glass Bowl

2 – SplashDown:
Kief
Wooden Arrows
Blue Lighter

3 – FireWall:
Ladder
Medium Wallet
Absorbing Shield
Blue Giants Cap
Cold Metal Boomerang
Sunglasses

4 – BullsEye:
Crossbow
Stone Sword
Cellphone

5 – TimeBomb:
Dynamite
Medium Bomb Pouch
Raft
Large Bomb Pouch
Purple Lighter
Cold Metal Arrows

6 – WhirlWind:
Right Turquoise Glove

7 – HeatStroke:
Shocker
Boots
Red Giants Cap
Left Ruby Glove
Flamethrower Fuel
Deflecting Shield
Hot Metal Boomerang

8 – HighHead:
Hammer
Cold Metal Sword
Gameboy
Large Wallet
Grappling Hook
Snorkel And Mask
Hot Metal Sword
any items/weapons missed
[all items slots can be filled and many can be upgraded]

need help? what follows are some tips based on questions I have received from people playing the game.

-don't be scared off by level nine
-look for a prize and a door on each screen
-stopping time can be dangerous
-pay attention to what people tell you, many messages won't be repeated
-seek alternate entrances
-progress West
-hotstepping moonwalking agility is required
-the chapter titles and the name of the game are relevant to your progress

need more help? there is a detailed walkthrough hidden among many player questions and tips in this message board thread and the video below gives away almost all of the content of the quest through the beginning of the second level. if you would like to keep all of the surprises fresh, don't watch Kurt91 whoop upon the early bits of the game. to watch the video and preserve some of the fun reveals, stop watching at ten minutes in, right before the plot is introduced.
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A Link To The... video's youtube page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bMmiI08NnE) leads to some text that explains a few of the version compatibility SNAFUs.

feedback has been key in the decade-long (and counting) development of the game. while I still do not consider this thing to be totally finished (expect at least one more update for better cross-version compatibility), previous versions earned the quoted words that follow from players.

v: “this quest is awesome....very funny....full of wonderful colors and original ideas....full of greats surprises....beautiful"

f: “this is a strange quest....a really interesting quest....it's pretty addictive. it's also pretty hard....requires one to think outside the box a bit, and that's a good thing....very creatively done....darn good”

s: “incredibly clever....took a bit of thinking and skill to complete, and while it was difficult, it was never impossible”

t: “one of the best quests I've played in a while....great overworld design....coupled with fantastic gameplay”

p: "one of my favorite quests....stretched the limits....maintained the difficulty....having fun"

y: “the tiles are amazing”

i: “good concept”

m: “interesting”

j: "great"

w: “fun”

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I want to thank everybody who has played this quest and provided feedback; it is appreciated! much respect to Wolfo, the composer. oh, and none of this would be possible without the invaluable help of S. Norton Duhrugges and Elle Ickenbochs.

trudatman
10-06-2012, 12:43 AM
so, Brad Dashie is giving my quest a try, but he has a hearing disability, so I don't expect him to provide feedback on the new music that I have been eagerly anticipating. oh, well. here's hoping he likes the quest, regardless. he also reminded me to add the clarification that 1.92 players are reportedly capable of adhering to (most of) the intended design of the quest, so folks can feel (relatively) safe using those versions without worry that they will get to level eight and find they cannot complete the game due to incompatibility SNAFUs.

so:

-good luck, @Dashie (http://armageddongames.net/member.php?u=57947) dude.
-y'all can expect this quest to mostly work with any 1.9 player(s), but it won't work right with any 2s.
-somebody play this thing and comment on the soundtrack, which, until this year, hadn't changed for the better since development began in 2001.

Dashie
10-06-2012, 03:16 PM
Thank Trudatman. I just finish recording. It is really long because I start over of bug. When I first open for map. But second, it close the program. So I think this one is bug.

[irl=http://youtu.be/4qlIjIo2mLM]Level 1, 2A[/url]

trudatman
10-06-2012, 07:20 PM
@Dashie (http://armageddongames.net/member.php?u=57947) Brad is one funny dude. I love those outbursts! here he is spending over an hour getting through the first twenty minutes of the game. there are some hard parts that had him stumped, but he stuck with it and it's a good thing that he has excellent fighting skills, because it seems that 1.92 players aren't ideal, as they require more hits than they should (at least twenty when it should be sixteen) to defeat the two-headed gleeok. that is going to make this game harder than it should be. oh, well, Brad's sword skills should get him through the gleeok battles. I wonder if all of the gleeoks will be extra hard... the forty-headed gleeok may be a bit much, but that is a long way away at this rate. so, readers... if you can run 1.90, play it in that. if the gleeoks are too hard, use the password 723 to edit them out, otherwise, I guess. also, the cracked house at the very end of the video was supposed to blow up (it does in 1.90 and I guess I figure I can "fix" that so it is more forward compatible), but you aren't missing much down that way. looks like I need to retract the recommendation that 1.92 players are okay; it looks like they are functional, but not ideal. here's hoping we get more videos like this one. thanks, Brad!

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trudatman
10-07-2012, 12:18 PM
I'm thinking he got frustrated with the map crashing bug and started using an incompatible build. another player reported that the house in the last three minutes of the video should have fallen in 1.92. so, I guess I can still recommend 1.92. I'm not not confused.

trudatman
10-07-2012, 12:21 PM
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trudatman
10-07-2012, 01:50 PM
yeah, I'm pretty sure he was using an incompatible player. I recommend 1.90. if that isn't possible, 1.92b184 should work. I believe 1.92b183 will also work, as long as you don't try to view the map. all 2-point-whatevers will make the game too hard and impossible to beat.

trudatman
10-07-2012, 08:22 PM
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Brasel
10-07-2012, 09:09 PM
I'm fairly sure I played this back in the day. I really loved that Revenge tileset. I never made a whole quest out of it.

I'll have to take a look at this next weekend and play it again.

trudatman
10-07-2012, 09:29 PM
if you played it in 2002-2004, it is now different enough that you should give it another go.

trudatman
10-08-2012, 01:27 AM
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so, the 1.92 players seem to handle most things well. there are a few things that fail... mostly stuff involving enemy placement. the juggling girl should not be reachable with the sword, as she is supposed to be on the other side of the barricade. the room with the blue cap is supposed to have at least one enemy in it. aside from that, 1.92 seems to be good enough to be an alternative for folks that can't run 1.90. if you can run 1.90, play this quest in that. if you can only run 2.x versions, don't bother trying this quest.

trudatman
10-09-2012, 09:24 PM
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Medium Wallet
Absorbing Shield
Cold Metal Boomerang
Sunglasses
Stone Sword
Cellphone

@Dashie (http://armageddongames.net/member.php?u=57947)

you are missing a bunch of items, but you are still whooping upon the enemies in this quest, buddy. you are figuring out the hard stuff, but missing a lot of easy things. you have been given the most helpful clue multiple times, but you seem to be ignoring the advice. are you good at the original The Legend Of Zelda game?

oh, and I think you should save more often and maybe back up your save file. you can use the map right after you load the game, because if it crashes, no big deal, just reload. right?

Dashie
10-09-2012, 09:34 PM
I Know I miss it alot but it hard to find it. But my guess, I think some of them in shop. Oh I do use regular game for find secret. I just play alot of zelda classic. But if you give me some hint, then I will get it quickly.

trudatman
10-09-2012, 09:42 PM
Dashie

....look for a prize and a door on each screen....
....EVERY overworld screen....

Dashie
10-09-2012, 10:33 PM
EACH....OVERWORLD....SCREEN?! Sound like rough to me but it fun.

trudatman
10-09-2012, 10:35 PM
yeah. well, if you want to find everything....

I think you could beat this quest with the first sword, though, so maybe you don't need to search for more stuff.

Dashie
10-09-2012, 10:38 PM
I found 4 out of 6. And I am upload right now. I need find Wallet and Sunglasses. Can you give me lightly hint? Like...ice melt. burn tree in west. Bomb on rock near water. Stuff like that.

trudatman
10-09-2012, 11:38 PM
you don't need any more hints! you are doing great! just keep assuming EVERY screen has something.

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Dashie
10-10-2012, 06:12 AM
Lol. Ok. :)

trudatman
10-11-2012, 01:04 AM
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trudatman
10-21-2012, 02:34 PM
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trudatman
11-03-2012, 03:59 PM
I owe this big thanks to Dashie for uncovering an error that blocked progress between levels seven and eight. SORRY, everybody! old save files should work with the newly uploaded quest file because the file name is the same. http://www.fileswap.com/dl/ewnAysYmDH/HowHigh.qst.html if you have this quest on your computer, please get the update.

Dashie
11-03-2012, 04:02 PM
*nod* No problem. Trudatman. :) I hope old save file will work.

trudatman
11-03-2012, 04:03 PM
here are the videos for Dashie's playthrough:

part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlIjIo2mLM)
part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlxUOrKbq5c)
part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ytWj__6VP8)
part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqR0w1tX-5c)
part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKPN8rKvgA0)
part 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aQOC9tFoTM)
part 7 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHV7i0QeKa8)
part 8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhnfM0hdic8)
part 9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mvnaNkuOYY)
part 10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL1e5RstbQ4)
part 11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Rg4Ra-9Lo)
part 12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btu7M4aEPeA)
part 13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh3rBaWEvqA)

Dashie
11-03-2012, 04:25 PM
Uh TDM, you have two same video. ^^;

trudatman
11-04-2012, 07:26 PM
thanks. I appreciate your help, buddy. good luck beating this thing!

Dashie
11-04-2012, 08:43 PM
Don't worry about that. I am kinda nervous for that so I just take a break before play your quest. Maybe tomorrow.

SUCCESSOR
11-04-2012, 09:25 PM
Would you mind swapping out some of those videos for links? Every time I open this thread shockwave crashes and makes my browser unresponsive till it loads.

I have been wanting to try out this quest. I know there are bugs with it running in 2.5; are they game breaking? 2.1 and previous versions of ZC wont run for me.

Dashie
11-04-2012, 10:52 PM
What kind browser you use?

trudatman
11-05-2012, 12:21 AM
2.1 is the worst. LOTS of things will go wrong.

2.5 is pretty bad, but it is almost manageable if you know how to use the editor. lots of things will be frustratingly off, but there will only be a few that prevent progress. those can be "fixed" with the editor and the password "723."

1.92(184) is what I recommend for folks that can't run 1.90. other 1.92s are decent. these versions may not work perfectly, but all of the main objectives of the game should be achievable.

if you really can't run any 1.9s, I'd say forget it. if you decide it is worth editing in 2.5, I give you free reign to make changes and share the file. if you'd like my consultation in such a project, I'd be willing to suggest how easy fixes would go or how the thing could be drastically changed. I'll get on the videos -> links thing right now.

trudatman
11-05-2012, 11:08 PM
well... it seems my recent fixes were not ideal. I broke a couple of things which I will fix ASAFP. in the meantime, I advise players to not bother fighting the deathknight in the dark woods. I think he can be bypassed and the item hidden near the fake triforce piece on that screen can be obtained as long as that enemy is not killed. that area will need further attention from me -- and thus this quest will need yet another update -- but it is not going to happen immediately. I am sorry for any troubles. maybe this thing will be fully functional before it is a full dozen years old.