SotW has started as of Monday, April 14, 2008!

[Pineconn]

That is, this is when we will be accepting submissions. SotW will end and begin again every Monday. Therefore, the first poll will be April 21, and the first winner will be April 28.

Monday sounds good, right?

(This is a temporary thread.)

[Joe123]

What time GMT?

[Pineconn]

It doesn't matter at all. As long as we change ballots every Monday, everything will go smoothly.

I hope.

[Joe123]

Oh right ok.

Cause I'm fine to do Mondays, but it'll be sorta 10-11pm GMT most likely, and I dunno what time that is in whatever time zone everyone else is in.


How are we going to do it?
Like on a rota or summat?
You do it this week, then Amaster next week, then me the week after and then continue like that?

[Gleeok]

So 10-11 GMT is like 2-6 in the US I believe. Anyone get any submissions yet?

[Joe123]

Yeah, I think so.
Obviously it's different East and West coast though.

I think I better submit a screen.
Hrms.

Might just knock up a random one for it, I haven't actually produced any screens in 2 weeks or something.
I've been scripting and sorting out functionality and things.

[Pineconn]

What time GMT?

Every single time I read "GMT", I think to myself "Gander Mountain Time" -> "Mountain Standard Time". :rolleyes:

So yeah, it would happen later in the day for you, I suppose.

[Joe123]

Gander Mountain Time?

GMT is Greenwich Mean Time.

[Pineconn]

So..... how 'bout that SotW? Anyone planning on submitting anything?

[Gleeok]

Oops...I forgot. >_< ...How many shots do we have so far?

..I could send you guys one.

[Pineconn]

Zero. :p

I was thinking about making a shot as well. Then again, I sort of suck at determining overworld aesthetic.

[Gleeok]

Zero. :p


Ahahahaa! wtf


Alright lets improvise. I have to go now, but I'll send Amaster and Joe a shot a bit later, you throw together something for them and then they'll maybe add one. Someone else might read this before tomorrow and contribute also.

Best sotw ever. :laughing:

[The_Amaster]

Reminds me: Pineconn, any chance we can get an announcement on the main ZC page?

[Shazza Dani]

I guess I'll put a shot in. Who do I send it to?

[Pineconn]

I guess I'll put a shot in. Who do I send it to?

Clicky. (http://www.armageddongames.net/forums/showthread.php?t=102105)


Reminds me: Pineconn, any chance we can get an announcement on the main ZC page?

No. (http://zeldaclassic.armageddongames.net/index.php) ;)

[Shazza Dani]

Sent. =]

[Pineconn]

Received. :)

I just thought of a good idea which should make SotW a lot more efficient.

We should ask DD permission to create a dummy member, called "SotW", to whom people will send all screenshots. All SotW managers will get the password to the member in order to view the screenshots. This is so that all the screenshots go to one place instead of all over (and that we don't get bothered with several PMs a day). Of course, we will post all SotW threads with our regular usernames. Likey?

[Gleeok]

Sounds like good idea. I'm throwing something together right now...I just love last minute stuff.

[Joe123]

I'm...

Going to be really lazy and submit something from ages ago =P


Heh, apparently Russ' inbox is full =P

[Gleeok]

Ooh! Can I be lazy too and submit a screen from YOUR quest? I'll win for sure.. :p

...jk, I'm fixing the damn palette right now. I'll just send it to you then.

edit; alright I sent it. That should make at least 4.

[Joe123]

Hahahahahhahahahahah =P

Submit a screen from my quest?

hahahahahhaha =P





Yeah sure if you want to =P

My screen isn't from my current quest though.


Well, I currently have 3 screens (including my own).
How are we starting this then?
We're well into the 15th now >_<

[Gleeok]

I don't know. What's the deal? Anyone else want to send one to get it started?

[bobrocks95]

mighty_darknut sent me his, though I haven't received any others.

[Joe123]

Well we've had a bit of a problem with who's running it and whatnot, so I didn't really want to just post it without seeing who's meant to be running it.
Also, you said we should have 4 screens and I only have 3.

[bobrocks95]

You and Amaster are the main ones running SotW, while me and Russ are the main ones running Gemstone. However, it appears that 2 people aren't following the rules and are just sending screenshots to a couple people, instead of all of us.

[Joe123]

I sent mine to you =S

EDIT: Oh, no I didn't apparently.
I did write a PM, must've forgot to press send or summat, cause it's not in my outbox >_<

[bobrocks95]

Hmmm... Weird... The only thing in my inbox that has anything to do with SotW is from darknut.... And it's not full or anything. Did you send it recently?

[Joe123]

Oh!
I sent it, then it said 'russadwan's inbox is currently full'.

I thought that meant '... and we'll send it to everyone else though', but apparently it didn't >_<

[bobrocks95]

When does he come back? The 17th?

[Joe123]

Yus

[Sam Atoms]

Do these submissions have to be from things we are working on currently?

I have a screenshot worthy of the competition, even though I haven't touched the quest it's from in almost 3 years. It's a nifty scene though.

[Joe123]

Ok, heed this everyone:

You can submit whatever you like for this

So long as it is a ZC screen


So what if you haven't worked on it for 3 years?
It's still a screen.
It's not the 'Screenshotofwhatyou'recurrentlyworkingonoftheweek ' competition.



So yes =)

[Gleeok]

You and Amaster are the main ones running SotW, while me and Russ are the main ones running Gemstone. However, it appears that 2 people aren't following the rules and are just sending screenshots to a couple people, instead of all of us.

I sent mine to the three that would be posting the sotw. :p Sorry, I couldn't remember your username exactly.

[The_Amaster]

Okay yeah,
SotW::Amaster42, Joe123, Pineconn
Gemstone: Bobrocks95, Russadwan, Pineconn

[Pineconn]

I think that we have three entries at this moment... with several days to go! See, this is why it is necessary to have a single place to where screens are sent. Everything seems disorganized right now.

[bobrocks95]

While the idea sounds good and I think we should do it, we wouldn't be so unorganized if people were sure to send their screenshots to everyone working the Expo.

[Gleeok]

I think that we have three entries at this moment... with several days to go! See, this is why it is necessary to have a single place to where screens are sent. Everything seems disorganized right now.

Several days? I thought it was yesterday...And why not just open a new account named SOTW? It's not like you're going to get banned...What did DD say?

[Shazza Dani]

Maybe there's too many people trying to run this thing. >_<

[bobrocks95]

2 people per event, plus one person to be... The official, I guess. You have to have two people in case one is unavailable at the time.

[Joe123]

Yah.

So we have enough entrants, how are we doing it Amaster?
A rota?

You can do this week and I'll do next?
Then Pineconn if he wants?

And shall we change the starting day to a wednesday or just start late this week?

[bobrocks95]

I don't think that's necessary. According to the thread, SUBMISSIONS start this week, with the first voting thread on the 21, and the first official winner on the 28. No need to change anything.

[Joe123]

Oh, oops =P

I thought it was meant to start on the 14th, and we were running really late >_<

[Gleeok]

Oh, oops =P

I thought it was meant to start on the 14th, and we were running really late >_<

That's what I though too....


SotW has started as of Monday, April 14, 2008!

After that you just stop reading I guess.

[Revfan9]

Guess I should throw a shot together, eh?

[Pineconn]

Considering some the shots you pull off, you could easily win at least half of the SotW contests.

I think I'm going to sit this one out, considering that we already have four screenies.


So we have enough entrants, how are we doing it Amaster?
A rota?

You can do this week and I'll do next?
Then Pineconn if he wants?


Good point, I never thought of how we would post them. Well... I suppose we could do it "first come, first serve", but you have a several hour jump on the competition. :)

[Revfan9]

lol

Just hope this doesn't turn into PZC's old SotWs.

[Pineconn]

Really? What was wrong with them?

[Revfan9]

Considering my extreme hate for PZC (Which I'm sure I don't need to explain), I want to go on a really long and boring rant on that question, but I don't feel like typing all of that, so I'm giving the short version.

1. Popularity contest. If your name is "DarkFlameWolf" or "NoeL", you can enter any piece of shit that you want and people will vote for you.

2. Sheep site. The first opinion tends to be the only opinion. Almost always, the contest was decided within the first couple of hours. The first one to get a couple of votes ahead is the one that gets the massive flood of votes soon afterward. You have a few people who will actually be honest, but nowhere near enough to cancel out all of the dumb fucks who just follow what everyone else said like Lemmings.

[Joe123]

Good point, I never thought of how we would post them. Well... I suppose we could do it "first come, first serve", but you have a several hour jump on the competition. :)

Yah, let's have a rota =P
Who wants to go first?


And I thought it was Relic who used to win every week?

[Russ]

1. Popularity contest. If your name is "DarkFlameWolf" or "NoeL", you can enter any piece of shit that you want and people will vote for you.

2. Sheep site. The first opinion tends to be the only opinion. Almost always, the contest was decided within the first couple of hours. The first one to get a couple of votes ahead is the one that gets the massive flood of votes soon afterward. You have a few people who will actually be honest, but nowhere near enough to cancel out all of the dumb fucks who just follow what everyone else said like Lemmings.
You know what's funny, NoeL won Screenshot of the Year 2007. :)

Although, I do somewhat agree. At Pure ZC, the screenshot that gets the first vote almost always wins.

And on a side note, could somebody plrease explain what was decided about SotW? I was reading the rules, and saw that submissions are supposed toi be sent to Pineconn, Amaster, Joe, Bobrocks, and me. So, who is the one who creates the SotW thread?

[Revfan9]

Yah, let's have a rota =P
Who wants to go first?


And I thought it was Relic who used to win every week?

Pretty much every week he entered, yes. But that's not the point, at least Relic usually deserved his wins. It's when badly made Pure Tileset JPG shots with a horrid custom palette win...

[Pineconn]

And on a side note, could somebody plrease explain what was decided about SotW? I was reading the rules, and saw that submissions are supposed to be sent to Pineconn, Amaster, Joe, Bobrocks, and me. So, who is the one who creates the SotW thread?

You and bobrocks are running Gemstone, and Amaster and Joe123 are running SotW. We'll be setting up a new user account specifically for Amaster, Joe, and myself (called "SotW") so we can manage the submissions more efficiently. We're having the screenshots be sent to all five of us temporarily.

[Shazza Dani]

You know what's funny, NoeL won Screenshot of the Year 2007. :)

Although, I do somewhat agree. At Pure ZC, the screenshot that gets the first vote almost always wins.

And on a side note, could somebody plrease explain what was decided about SotW? I was reading the rules, and saw that submissions are supposed toi be sent to Pineconn, Amaster, Joe, Bobrocks, and me. So, who is the one who creates the SotW thread?

NoeL deserved to win, his screens are always amazing. It's people like DFW, Linkus, and Shoelace who are guarunteed to win even if their screens are sub-par.

[Russ]

Because we don't have a box at the main page for SotW, how about this: We make a thread called "Current SotW". It is just one post, and always contains the current SotW, and it's captions, and nothing else. Each week, we just edit the post to take the old SotW out and put the new one in. How does that sound?

[Linkus]

NoeL deserved to win, his screens are always amazing. It's people like DFW, Linkus, and Shoelace who are guarunteed to win even if their screens are sub-par.

Um, that's changed since then. You see, everyone now votes more wisely; I know, because my picture lost to LostInHyru1e's shot in SoTW 201:

Mine--
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7395/linkusiv0.gif
LiH's--
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z215/LostInHyrule/zelda261.jpg

Also, Relic has quit posting in SoTW, after being blamed for the constant stream of poorly designed shots that had above-average graphics. I can't blame him though; I'd do the same if I knew that I worked hard on everything in that shot to some together correctly in design, and others bash it by simply having shots with poor design and above-average graphics. I should know, as I am guilty myself, but I was younger then.

Also, sub-par?? How is the picture below sub-par, then? I got a 10 from Nathaniel in his review...:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6011/sotw187ea6.gif

[Shazza Dani]

Your graphics are nice, but I wouldn't vote for that shot. There's absolutely nothing there. No player, no npcs, no subscreen. Why don't you just draw one player tile and use the LoZ subscreen so your shots at least look complete?

[Revfan9]

Dear God, it's even worse now then when I left.

How does an empty, repetitive basic DoR shot win against an empty, but beautifully drawn shot?

Oh yeah, it's PZC. I forgot.

[Shazza Dani]

I think some people have decided not to vote for a shot if it isn't at least taken in Zelda Classic. Which I agree with.

[Revfan9]

But why? It's a screenshot contest. Bringing anything else other than how good the shot looks is illogical and anything other than the eye-candyness of the shot is completely irrelevant. Not voting for a superior shot for the sole reason that it wasn't taken in the player makes just about as much sense as saying "I played that demo, but I didn't like the music in that area, so I'm not voting for that screenshot no matter how good it is."

[Shazza Dani]

Not exactly. The music doesn't effect the way it looks. The lack of player, npcs, and/or enemies makes a screen look boring and unappealing.

[Russ]

I got to say, I love having SotW entries sent to me. That way, I can see if my shot stands a chance in the contest before I enter it, find out it's the worst one entrered, and get humiliated.

[Shoelace]

Okay, look. I don't agree with the whole your name sells the vote thing because in my opinion it doesn't. You said that I always win SotW at PureZC, and that is BS, you didn't do your research, I have the worst win-loss record at PureZC. I have like 30 losses. And you say that NoeL didn't deserve those wins, he did. Every time he won, he deserved to win. His screens was honestly better. You may say sub-par but in the popular vote did go to the screen for a reason, and it isn't name. The people that win a lot of good design, don't hate them because they have good skills. And Revfan, I remember your posts at PureZC, and I disagreed with you on everything. You said that not one of DFW's screens are good because she doesn't know how to use the Pure Tileset. So come on, now.

Anyways, I wish this SotW thing luck. I am SotW manager at PureZC so we will be feuding. j/k But just remember, the winner will be the best pic that amused the majority, not the name of the person. I just hope the PureZC hating stops... Can't we all just get along? lol

[Russ]

I just hope the PureZC hating stops... Can't we all just get along? lol
I hope so too. It seems like both forums just hate each other sometimes. And I have a bad feeling the AGN SotW and Gemstone will both stir up feelings between the two forums even more.

[The_Amaster]

If this were a sitcom, it would be at this point that the flashback episode would begin about how these two once good friends became enemies.

[Pineconn]

This is a funny thread. :p

So far we have a submission from Blaman, Joe123, Gleeok, Sam Atoms, and Mighty Darknut. If you submitted a screen to one of us and your name is not on this list, please let us know.

[Shoelace]

lol. PureZC and AGN used to be neighborhood friends. They would learn lessons together and give advice to one another. XD No but really, I don't think AGN and PureZC are enemies, they just have a different group of people. I say once ZC 2.5 is released we will all be holding hands again. lol.

[bobrocks95]

*AGN bumps into Pure. "Hey man, you dropped your ice cream on me!" Pure shouts in an angry tone. "Well it's not my fault you're so fat!" AGN says while sobbing somewhat over the loss of his triple-scoop cone. "This means war!" Pure screams as he storms out of the store.*

[Shazza Dani]

lol. PureZC and AGN used to be neighborhood friends. They would learn lessons together and give advice to one another. XD No but really, I don't think AGN and PureZC are enemies, they just have a different group of people. I say once ZC 2.5 is released we will all be holding hands again. lol.

Except the people who are banned from PureZC... >_>

[Revfan9]

Or PZC will finish it's slow death, and AGN's ZC forums will continue to be dead.

[Russ]

If this were a sitcom, it would be at this point that the flashback episode would begin about how these two once good friends became enemies.
People like Revfan came along. And then some people just left AGN entirerly because Pure ZC was more active.

On a side note, I just submitted a screenshot.

[Revfan9]

I probably won't be submitting something this week, ZC is boring me too much right now to really do anything.

[Russ]

I probably won't be submitting something this week, ZC is boring me too much right now to really do anything.
Just submit one of your older ones. You have millions of good ones.

[Plissken]

I submitted, hopefully not to late. Just a shot from Ancient Memories, mainly entered just to be part of the very first one here. :P

Good luck to everyone.

[Pineconn]

Not too late at all. Anyone can still submit for SotW 1 until the thread is made tomorrow.

[Revfan9]

Just submit one of your older ones. You have millions of good ones.

Meh, why not? Lemme just dig through my Photobucket to find something I'm willing to show off atm...

[LostInHyru1e]

Question: Why the heck can't we take the screenshots in ZQuest and crop them? I've always preferred that method.

EDIT:

Wait, what was that about me on the last page? *Checks* Hey look, there's my winter shot! :) I still think Linkus's was better than mine. Despite the not gameplay shot, Linkus obviously put more work into his.

[Freedom]

Looks like this is going to be about as dependable as it was on purezc.

[Shazza Dani]

Looks like this is going to be about as dependable as it was on purezc.

How true. *cries*

[The_Amaster]

Whoop! Sorry guys.

[Pineconn]

I blame the Wii. You can send your complaints to Nintendo via e-mail. :p

Once Brawl and Mario Kart lose their factor of amazingness (which may still be for a few weeks), I'll become more active.