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Blisspath
02-26-2008, 09:38 PM
I admit it is pretty cool looking and 18k is not bad..but I'm not buying a car that can't do over 40 mph whether it saves the planet or not.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4251491.html?series=19
Modus Ponens
02-26-2008, 09:47 PM
I thought it could do 96 mph. Where in the article does it say that it can't do over 40? Or am I falsely inferring that you read that about this car?

Anyway, it sounds pretty neat, and it's something I think I can get excited about. My friend Dan is going to buy a Mazda RX-8, which has a rotary engine, which can take alternative fuels without modification, and equip it to run on hydrogen, thus creating a zero-emission car, but this idea of running on air is pretty awesome, though it does say that it requires some fuel. Perhaps it could use a non-carbon-based fuel source?
Blisspath
02-26-2008, 09:52 PM
aww..I see..I read it wrong, it has a supplemental source that kicks in above 35 mph..it can do 96...man I may get me one of those next year. It would pay for itself in a couple of years considering I drive up to 1,000 miles a week.
The_Amaster
02-26-2008, 10:00 PM
SWEET!
I mean, biofuels are nice and all, but this, this is what we need! I mean, how much of your driving hits over 35 that much anyway. On the highway a lot, but depending on where you live, residential and downtown driving rarely tops 30.
phattonez
02-26-2008, 10:09 PM
SWEET!
I mean, biofuels are nice and all, but this, this is what we need! I mean, how much of your driving hits over 35 that much anyway. On the highway a lot, but depending on where you live, residential and downtown driving rarely tops 30.

I beg to differ. :)

Hydrogen has a lot of work before it can be implemented. The best that we have now is electric cars, but there are a variety of reasons why that's not happening (none of them very good).
The_Amaster
02-26-2008, 10:13 PM
Phattonez, read the article. Otherwise I'd agree with you, but this thing seems about ready to go.
phattonez
02-26-2008, 10:34 PM
Yeah, but I'd still like to see how efficient it is compared to batteries and how safe it is.
Beldaran
02-26-2008, 11:31 PM
It's no different than an electric car with regards to energy usage. It's not "Zero Pollution". It uses electricity (at some point) to compress air. There is no free energy.
Icey
02-27-2008, 02:23 AM
What Beldaran said. Zero pollution is desirable in a theoretical sense; less pollution in a practical sense. Zero pollution is only possible with zero production, and I don't think we want that =) The real world always involves SOME externalities.
Modus Ponens
02-27-2008, 08:19 PM
Well, there's always that beautiful, bountiful externality called "the Sun".
Beldaran
02-27-2008, 09:05 PM
Well, there's always that beautiful, bountiful externality called "the Sun".

Pffff.... that's only for 7 billion years. WHAT THEN?
MoonCheese
02-27-2008, 09:13 PM
Move humanity to another solar system and use its star(s).
Beldaran
02-27-2008, 09:32 PM
Move humanity to another solar system and use its star(s).

And after those stars get used up... WHAT THEN? ;)
MoonCheese
02-27-2008, 09:49 PM
Attempt to create a new universe.
Beldaran
02-27-2008, 10:06 PM
Attempt to create a new universe.

With what power source?
Modus Ponens
02-27-2008, 10:15 PM
With what power source?

Yeah, and WHAT THEN?
Beldaran
02-27-2008, 10:28 PM
With what power source?

The answer to this question is obviously "Poop". :goofy: