ShadowTiger
12-27-2005, 05:59 PM
Okay, concerning the bow and arrows, we now have four entities we must keep track of:
1) The Bow.
2) The "Arrow" Item. (Wooden, Silver, and Golden.)
3) The Quiver. - The ability to store the arrows.
4) The Arrow Ammunition - 1, 5, 10, and 30 pieces.
Alright. Suppose you only had a few of these items at once. Suppose you had the Bow and the "Arrow" item. What does this mean? The Bow allows you to FIRE the arrows, but if you have no ammunition, what do you do with the arrow item itself?
Ssomething interesting DN said in irc.initialized.org (Which you should all flock to! O_O Lots of ZC Activity down there.) relating to this issue:
[16:19] <DarkNation-AG> Hrmmm... Interesting...
[16:20] <DarkNation-AG> A quest rule: "Bow = Max Arrows + 1"
[16:20] <DarkNation-AG> Like the bow has an arrow holder on it.
[16:20] <DarkNation-AG> So, your maxes would be 1, 31, 61, and 100.
So, apparently, according to DN, if you have this arrow item, (AKA, the -ABILITY- to hold arrows. Quivers only expand on that ability.) you can shoot a single arrow. If you shoot that arrow, you still retain the ability to use arrows, only you need to pick up another one.
If you only have a bow and a quiver, you cannot shoot. (IMHO.) You have the tool, (The Bow.) and the ammunition, (If you have arrows in the quiver, that is.) but you do not possess the ability to shoot arrows. (The arrow item.)
So, what was proposed, was, a quest rule where if you have the bow, you can automatically shoot wooden arrows. (If the quest rule is on, the bow is both the bow and the wooden arrows, so you get both at the same time.)
The quiver is an expansion for arrows, and nothing more. It allows you to carry 30 or 31, then 60 or 61, and 99 or ... 99, I guess. Very good stuff, really. It doesn't allow you to use any actual arrows though. You can only carry them.
Okay. So. Best case scenario, with the Bow = Bow+WoodArrow Quest Rule, If you have -ANY- item except the ammo, you can carry arrows. If you have the bow, but nothing else, you can automatically shoot at least one arrow. If you have the arrow item but nothing else, you can carry -one- arrow. If you have a quiver, you can carry 30/60/90 arrows, but can't shoot them. If you only find ammo, you can walk over 'em and collect 'em, but nothing happens. You don't actually carry them. Probably not even one.
Thoughts?
1) The Bow.
2) The "Arrow" Item. (Wooden, Silver, and Golden.)
3) The Quiver. - The ability to store the arrows.
4) The Arrow Ammunition - 1, 5, 10, and 30 pieces.
Alright. Suppose you only had a few of these items at once. Suppose you had the Bow and the "Arrow" item. What does this mean? The Bow allows you to FIRE the arrows, but if you have no ammunition, what do you do with the arrow item itself?
Ssomething interesting DN said in irc.initialized.org (Which you should all flock to! O_O Lots of ZC Activity down there.) relating to this issue:
[16:19] <DarkNation-AG> Hrmmm... Interesting...
[16:20] <DarkNation-AG> A quest rule: "Bow = Max Arrows + 1"
[16:20] <DarkNation-AG> Like the bow has an arrow holder on it.
[16:20] <DarkNation-AG> So, your maxes would be 1, 31, 61, and 100.
So, apparently, according to DN, if you have this arrow item, (AKA, the -ABILITY- to hold arrows. Quivers only expand on that ability.) you can shoot a single arrow. If you shoot that arrow, you still retain the ability to use arrows, only you need to pick up another one.
If you only have a bow and a quiver, you cannot shoot. (IMHO.) You have the tool, (The Bow.) and the ammunition, (If you have arrows in the quiver, that is.) but you do not possess the ability to shoot arrows. (The arrow item.)
So, what was proposed, was, a quest rule where if you have the bow, you can automatically shoot wooden arrows. (If the quest rule is on, the bow is both the bow and the wooden arrows, so you get both at the same time.)
The quiver is an expansion for arrows, and nothing more. It allows you to carry 30 or 31, then 60 or 61, and 99 or ... 99, I guess. Very good stuff, really. It doesn't allow you to use any actual arrows though. You can only carry them.
Okay. So. Best case scenario, with the Bow = Bow+WoodArrow Quest Rule, If you have -ANY- item except the ammo, you can carry arrows. If you have the bow, but nothing else, you can automatically shoot at least one arrow. If you have the arrow item but nothing else, you can carry -one- arrow. If you have a quiver, you can carry 30/60/90 arrows, but can't shoot them. If you only find ammo, you can walk over 'em and collect 'em, but nothing happens. You don't actually carry them. Probably not even one.
Thoughts?