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Monica
11-12-2005, 08:15 PM
ROME (Reuters) - The city of Rome has banned goldfish bowls, which animal rights activists say are cruel, and has made regular dog-walks mandatory in the Italian capital, the town's council said on Tuesday.

The classic spherical fish bowls are banned under a new by-law which also stops fish or other animals being given away as fairground prizes. It comes after a national law was passed to allow jail sentences for people who abandon cats or dogs.

"It's good to do whatever we can for our animals who in exchange for a little love fill our existence with their attention," said Monica Cirinna, the councillor behind the by-law.

"The civilisation of a city can also be measured by this," she told Rome daily Il Messaggero.

The newspaper reported that round bowls caused fish to go blind. No one at Rome council was available to confirm this was why they were banned. Many fish experts say round bowls provide insufficient oxygen for fish.

In July 2004, parliament passed a law setting big fines and jail terms for people who abandon pets and since then local governments have added their own animal welfare rules many of which will be difficult to police.

The northern city of Turin passed a law in April to fine pet owners up to 500 euros (339 pounds) if they do not walk their dogs at least three times a day.

The new Rome by-law requires owners to regularly exercise their dogs, and bans them from docking their pets' tails for aesthetic reasons.

It also provides legal recognition for cat lovers who provide food for the colonies of strays which live everywhere from the city's ancient Roman ruins to modern office car parks.

Animal rights groups estimate that around 150,000 pet dogs and 200,000 cats are abandoned in Italy every year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051025/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_life_italy_pets

Hmmm are regular fish bowls that bad? O_o

Saffith
11-12-2005, 08:38 PM
Yeah, those little bowls really aren't good for them. Goldfish need a lot of water to be healthy. There's some debate as to how much, exactly, but the generally accepted rule is 10-20 gallons per goldfish.

ShadowTiger
11-12-2005, 09:42 PM
*Nods* ... I can't go as far as saying "Fish are people too," but I can say that animals definitely don't deserve to be treated like objects, and given no regard to their general health.

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Until you eat them that is. :odd:

Starkist
11-12-2005, 10:27 PM
Rome, which once ruled the known world, believes that the signature of a civilization is how it treats its goldfish. Sigh.

KingArthur
11-13-2005, 03:19 AM
so.. they're making a huge deal about fish that are sold for 15 pence for the purpose of FEEDING other fish? how silly do you have to be?

Rainman
11-13-2005, 05:15 AM
They need to bring back the Colosseum.

Darth Marsden
11-13-2005, 06:02 AM
I'd say I'm surprised, but then again you have to remember I live in the UK, nanny state of the world. So I'm kinda used to it. :(

copsgotguns
11-15-2005, 05:04 AM
how long would it take a goldfish to go blind in a round fishbowl? dont they die in like a day anyway.

Cloral
11-15-2005, 12:57 PM
Rome, which once ruled the known world, believes that the signature of a civilization is how it treats its goldfish. Sigh.
Far better than basing the value of your civilization on how many peoples you've conquered. At least this way nobody dies.

Lutraphobiac
11-15-2005, 01:17 PM
Who the hell has Goldfish in those bowls anyways? I don't think I have ever seen one in real life.

Toolie
11-15-2005, 01:43 PM
Far better than basing the value of your civilization on how many peoples you've conquered. At least this way nobody dies.


Burned. *adds to Cloral's reputation*

Starkist
11-15-2005, 04:16 PM
Far better than basing the value of your civilization on how many peoples you've conquered. At least this way nobody dies.

The Glory That Was Rome was not just a conquered people, but a unified empire. Roads traversed the known world. Aquaducts gave water starved areas water. People were allowed, for the most part, to keep their own religions. Roman citizens were represented with a senate. Roman citizenry was easy to attain, by virtue of military service you and all your descendents would be numbered among the Romans.

And now, those former Romans had better walk their dogs three times a day, or else!

Rainman
11-15-2005, 08:04 PM
stuff
You're pretty much right. That's how it sustained itself for so long. However, Rome wouldn't have been such a big, rich nation without its military might.

Toolie
11-15-2005, 08:28 PM
The Glory That Was Rome was not just a conquered people, but a unified empire. Roads traversed the known world. Aquaducts gave water starved areas water. People were allowed, for the most part, to keep their own religions. Roman citizens were represented with a senate. Roman citizenry was easy to attain, by virtue of military service you and all your descendents would be numbered among the Romans.

And now, those former Romans had better walk their dogs three times a day, or else!

What the hell is your argument? What is the irony you're trying to pull at by contrasting a people's former power (or hell, even current power) with their current ethical stance on animal treatment? All you've been good at recently is squeezing what issues you can in an attempt to ooze a gushy conservative stance out of it. Nothing useful left to do? Protesting welfare, damning abortionists as Nazis, casting dude marraige to the depths of hell, and hating the "brown people" over East not really doing much for your ego anymore?