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phattonez
06-10-2004, 07:50 PM
It seems that there really are problem with IE . . .

http://itvibe.com/default.aspx?NewsID=2620

Serious problems with security have been found, and people have been advised to download Mozilla or Opera. Any thoughts about this?

Naked Jim
06-10-2004, 08:24 PM
I hate microsoft and try not to use any thing they have. I have a mac but it has IE however i dont use it I use safari and its pretty sweet. I also use mozilla and its also very nice!!

Ich
06-10-2004, 08:42 PM
The reason why I use it is spyware and how I can fend it off. I've got Firefox. But, I'll give you another reason: Last Measure. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Measure#Last_Measure)

Eckels
06-10-2004, 08:48 PM
Think about this... All software has vulnerable holes. IE simply has more people going after it. Microsoft is the big evil corporation, that all the smart little poor geniuses envy. The more people that try to find a hole into a something, the more likely that more holes will be found. Mozilla and Firefox, etc etc, are probably not more securely written programs. They just have less people trying to kill them. When the time comes, that the unpopular becomes popular, and the poverty stricken grow fat, the masses will attack their former savior. It is the inevitable end.

phattonez
06-10-2004, 08:50 PM
So then for right now, Mozilla would be a safer browser. The easiest solution then is to have both programs, and switch between whenever something is going on with the other. That is what I am doing right now.

{DSG}DarkRaven
06-10-2004, 09:09 PM
Right on, Eckels. Macintosh users give this same arguement all the time. "Mac is more secure! Steve Jobs loves me!" and other such crap. They don't even consider that Windows PC's outnumber Macs 10 to 1, and servers on the internet are somewhere around 90% unix/linux, 8% windows, and 2% Mac (I'm not entirely sure about those, but they ARE close).

IE is the most used browser, and thus it's constantly under a tremendous amount of scrutiny, just like all MS programs. Just like any popular program. If you're careful and take a few simple precautions, you'll most likely never have to deal with all the crap that others deal with.

SixTen
06-10-2004, 09:14 PM
I like Mozilla because of the tab browsing, so I don't have to look down by my start menu for minimized windows, and I also like the google search thingamaboblington. So I originally got it because of the features, and I learned about the security issues later.

Cloral
06-10-2004, 10:52 PM
Actually that's not entirely true DSG. Microsoft made IE part of the OS, meaning it has executive privelages that the other browsers don't have. So if someone finds a security hole in it, there's a much better chance they can do major damage.
But it is true that there are more people going after it so that creates more security holes. You have to remember that most people that don't really understand computers use IE because it's right there for them. These people are less likely to understand how to take security measures, and therefore are better targets for people who want to cause havoc.

AtmaWeapon
06-10-2004, 11:14 PM
The solution, according to Secunia, is to disable Active Scripting on all but trusted websites.

Yeah, that rhymes with downloading Mozilla and Firefox and Opera.

Oh and scratch firefox from the list. There's XPI spyware starting to float around :)

vegeta1215
06-11-2004, 01:22 AM
Cloral hit the nail on the head.

Between Mozilla and Firefox, I say choose Mozilla if you have enough power to run it (Pentium III or above with a decent amount of RAM). Firefox is nice cause it's fast and small, but that's its only advantage. It's very lacking in features and customizability compared to Mozilla. Also, Mozilla is catching up.

AlexMax
06-11-2004, 11:13 AM
The more people that try to find a hole into a something, the more likely that more holes will be found. Mozilla and Firefox, etc etc, are probably not more securely written programs. They just have less people trying to kill them.

Not necissarily. Firefox and Opera and the like don't integrate themselves with the OS. There will most likely be exploits found for alternative browsers (Firefox's plugin system, which was mentioned earlier), but I doubt they would be anything nearly as severe as IE's glaring problems.

*hugs Opera in all of its CSS compliancy glory*

(And yes, I know I've been beaten)

AtmaWeapon
06-11-2004, 11:24 AM
hugs Opera in all of its CSS compliancy glory

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/w3c_css.html)

Compliancy my foot. NONE of the big browsers comply fully with the W3C standards. More often than not, they support the tags they are supposed to support, but the developers sometimes decide that the W3C's suggested rendering of said tag is not the right thing.

*edit* HAHAHAHAHAHAHA it's OK, at least they got the ad banner feature working :)

Michael Moore
06-11-2004, 02:57 PM
I use IE cause I am use to it, I sometimes use Mozilla, but mostly IE. I don't care if its Microsoft that made it, I just need to get on the internet, and I like usuing IE as I have used it all my life.

Ich
06-11-2004, 04:23 PM
I still think being impervious to multipe windows jumping around your screen and the audio file "HEY EVERYBODY, I'M LOOKING AT GAY PORNO!" from blaring is reason enough to switch to a browser.

IE cannot protect you from Last Measure; Firefox can.

Shadowblazer
06-11-2004, 04:38 PM
Odd. I use IE all the time and my computer has never randomly done such a thing. You must visit very different websites than I do.