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Goat
12-19-2003, 05:28 PM
Found this (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1483837/20031219/index.jhtml?headlines=true) at MTV.com


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The recording industry's crusade against illegal file-sharing suffered a major setback Friday when a three-judge panel determined the method used to identify online pirates could not longer be used.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia overturned a previous federal decision that upheld the Recording Industry Association of America's practice of obtaining the identity of suspected illegal file-sharers through their Internet service providers.

Through such subpoenas, the RIAA was able to file more than 340 copyright-infringement lawsuits, totaling hundreds of millions of dollars, since September. Many defendants have settled, fearing costly court proceedings (see "Sixty-Four Alleged File-Sharers Back Down In Face of RIAA Lawsuits").

The ruling doesn't bar the RIAA from ever again suing users of peer-to-peer file-sharing networks who trade copyrighted works, though doing so will be more expensive and time consuming. No longer will ISPs, such as Verizon, AOL and Earthlink, be required to surrender the names and addresses of customers just because the RIAA provides a list of the Internet protocol addresses of suspected pirates. An IP address is like a digital fingerprint used to identify each computer connected to the Internet.

"Regardless of this decision, we will continue to defend our rights online on behalf of artists, songwriters and countless others involved in bringing music to the public," RIAA President Cary Sherman said in a statement. "We can and will continue to file copyright-infringement lawsuits against file-sharers who engage in illegal activity."

The appeals court's decision also means the RIAA won't be able to warn file-sharers that a lawsuit is coming. Many of those who were notified that a lawsuit was forthcoming settled before litigation began.

The controversy over the ISP subpoenas stemmed from a clause in the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which stated that a copyright holder may "request the clerk of any United States district court to issue a subpoena to [an ISP] for identification of an alleged infringer."

The RIAA acted upon that law in July 2002, when it ordered Verizon Internet Services to hand over the names of two suspected file-sharers. Verizon refused on First Amendment grounds, and the RIAA took the issue to court. In April, Verizon surrendered the names but vowed to appeal the court's decision (see "Verizon Surrenders Names of Suspected Song Pirates To The RIAA").

Since the DMCA was written before the popularity of peer-to-peer file-swapping networks, the law was aimed at pirates who upload copyrighted material to Web or FTP sites, and not to those who store it on their personal computers.

"P2P software was not even a glimmer in anyone's eye when the DMCA was enacted." Chief Judge Douglas H. Ginsburg wrote in the decision. "Furthermore, such testimony as was available to the Congress prior to passage of the DMCA concerned 'hackers' who established unauthorized FTP or BBS sites on the servers of ISPs. ... The Congress had no reason to foresee the application of [the DMCA] to P2P file-sharing, nor did they draft the DMCA broadly enough to reach the new technology when it came along."

Down but not entirely out, the RIAA's Sherman took the decision in stride, but his statement exuded an air of "no more Mr. Nice Guy." "Verizon is solely responsible for a legal process that will now be less sensitive to the interests of its subscribers who engage in illegal activity," he said.

Gerudo
12-19-2003, 05:31 PM
and this is after the similar courts said 'verizon, you gotta take this up the ass and tell them what they want to know'

a little too late, if you ask me... but also, better late than never i guess.. :shrug:

AlexMax
12-19-2003, 08:24 PM
Nelson: Ha Ha!

idontknow
12-19-2003, 08:32 PM
wait......what?



i'm still confused as to what this means--does it mean that cdrtain programs or sites are no longer legally obligated to tattle-tail on people who download software or music illegally from the internet, thus likely decreasing the number of people who get supoenas for downloading music?

Supoena es mipoena--(just a lil humor there)

Mercy
12-19-2003, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Goat
"P2P software was not even a glimmer in anyone's eye when the DMCA was enacted." Chief Judge Douglas H. Ginsburg wrote in the decision. "Furthermore, such testimony as was available to the Congress prior to passage of the DMCA concerned 'hackers' who established unauthorized FTP or BBS sites on the servers of ISPs. ... The Congress had no reason to foresee the application of [the DMCA] to P2P file-sharing, nor did they draft the DMCA broadly enough to reach the new technology when it came along."
Sadly, this is not exactly accurate. P2P file-sharing applications as we know them did not have 'faces' at the time the DMCA was enacted but the concept was already being bandied about as was concern to what the DMCA would mean in regards to them. Those geeky enough to be in the know and on the side of the P2P concept at the time voiced objections to the DMCA though they were essentially whispering into a hurricane. It is rather likely that had Napster been at the height of its popularity at that time, the DMCA would have passed with even more stringent rules than it has currently.

There was greater concern in '98 by the geeks versus the establishment over Intel's idea to give each processor it's own personal identification number to act as virtual fingerprints in order to connect software piracy and other forms of PC copyright infringement with specific machines. That the scope of the DMCA was not precise enough to cover specifically what was on each person's personal machine was as much in the favour of the copyright right holders as the casual computer user. It was framed loosely enough to allow creative interpretation as we have seen the RIAA lawyers utilize recently to go after file-sharers without having to deal with the sticky wicket of privacy and personal property rights that might have hobbled enactment of the DMCA in the first place. The creative interpretation has finally been tested and stopped, for now, but hundreds of people have already been sanctioned by it and thousands are a bit more gun shy about the future.

Ultimately the whole battle between the RIAA & their ilk and file-sharers is a mass of misdirection. It is not up to the masses to change how the RIAA works but the artists who support their system. The war that the file-sharers should be focusing on is copyrights in general and how they are utilized and abused under the current system. Art is just another form of information, and information wants to be free.


m.

Ich
12-20-2003, 12:18 AM
I'll have to give this to my music teacher. He was just talking to us today about how all this is "wrong" and "stealing" and all that crap. I think he's been brainwashed by them already.

EDIT: By clicking through some links (not sure how I eventually wound up there) I found a whole host of sites, like DownhillBattle.org (http://www.downhillbattle.org). But the coolest and funniest one was this one, What A Crappy Present.com (http://www.whatacrappypresent.com).

Radium
12-20-2003, 02:35 AM
It's only a matter of time before the RIAA returns to the depths.

Zilla
12-22-2003, 06:10 AM
Suck that RIAA! :blah:

The genie is out of the bottle.

You can't kill the p2p concept, and people who really know what they're doing can't and won't be found. (Think international super-nodes using 256-bit DES encrypted connections)

Look up a program called MUTE on sourceforge.net, you'll see some of the new and brilliant ideas going on in the Dev community. :)

BTW, If you connect to the net using any device that has a MAC address (NIC's cable modems etc), you can be tracked easily using server-side scripting......:sly: