Dungeons and Dragons

[Axel]

I wonder, just how many people here play either Advanced Dungeons and Dragons or Dungeons and Dragons. possibly we could try an online game...

[Matteo]

i have never played any version in my life...

[Ares[K!]]

I play, but it has been a long while...

[firebug]

i play AD&D (whenever i can find other people with the imagination/patience required to play a good game. which, sadly, is almost never :( )

[Axel]

well, the only people I know who play (aside from me, obviously) are my dad and bro. and by bro's a real newb. so I figured if we could get enough people here on we could do an online game.
they're hard to organize, but easy enough to play once everything's set up...

[stormwatcheagle]

No, but I am very interested in learning how. No one over here plays, and I go to high school, so if they do they won't admit it openly.

[Pink_Demon]

I play fairly often... mostly 2nd but i am famillier with third. Online sessions usualy arn't that hard... i have played in chat room sessions and i imagine a message board would make it all the easier.

[Paradox]

i have D&D 3 ed, but i haven't played in a couple months.

[VashdeStampedo!]

I play. But mainstream White Wolf is still better.

[Axel]

bah, and WoT is better. but we stick with what the greatest number of players understand.

[VashdeStampedo!]

WoT is the d20 system, which is the biggest problem of D&D. It's the same basic game.

[Axel]

I know, but it lacks some of the core problems of 3rd edition. indluding the poorly designed feats system and the ineffictive magic system. besides, it follows the books well and isn't worded like the reader is a moron.

what I don't understand is this: AD&D is the most succesfull and best known table-top RPG, so why did they change it to conform to the idiot d20 system rather than creating the d20 system to suit AD&D?

[MottZilla]

I used to play AD&D 2ND Edition. Not interested in playing again, esspecially online. :O Too difficult.

[VashdeStampedo!]

They should just make a new system. One that actually works, and is realistic.

[Axel]

you never read the intro to the players' handbook, 1st or 2nd edition, did you? the point isn't to be overly true to reality, but to be set so that it provides a fun, balanced game.
I think that 3rd edition fails to do this.

[VashdeStampedo!]

Then we agree at least on that.

Fantasy and unrealistic are different, though. A 20th level wizard would still die when stabbed in the heart unless he was damn lucky; he's not fit for combat. But in D&D, a stab to the heart would do next to nothing unless the DM threw out the combat system and hit points.

[Axel]

a stab in the heart would be a critical hit, which could easily kill. a regular hit would be a nonleathal cut, at most glancing off a rib, certainly dangerous, but adrenaline can cover the pain for a time.
besides, I'd be royally pissed if I went through all the trouble to get a high level mage and he got killed in such a pathetic manner. wouldn't you?