PureZC and Colors...

[Ganonator]

ok.. I'm pretty happy with the usablity of the PureZC tileset, but there's a few little problems that I have to deal with.

Colors are a real bitch. A real pain in the ass. Has anyone figured out why the colors for Level 6 - Ice are sooo bad?? :odd: can somebody help me out on this and give me maybe just that one palette fix? Its just wrong.

But I can't be ALL negative. I'm fairly happy with the rest of this set as well.

Just a little bit of a suggestion for whoever is making any updates to this set - for the dungeon entrance doors, the colors of the floor is like gray. Its just off, and for every one of the levels.

This is one of the harder tilesets to rip tiles into, because the colors are all.. off by one to say the least. Like i said, update, someday.

[Demimore]

Why dont you just edit the pallette yourself, it's easy. And I dont think the colors are that bad.... Well, I havent checked it out so much either.

[ShadowTiger]

Ditto. Palatte editing really isn't as hard as anyone thinks, especially level palatte editing. When you're on the overworld, and the combo page is looking at the dungeon tiles, they look messed up, right? That's because they are using the overworld csets 2-4. The main palatte lets you use 1-5, but all the levels focus on 2-4, so 1 and 5 are level independent. They will look the same regardless of the level palatte you're using. So if you change the level csets 2-4 for that ice dungeon you're using from... purple, was it? To aqua, it'll look a lot better. Simply go to Graphics->palatte->Levels and then go to what should be the ice dungeon, and change all the purple in one of the 2-4 csets to aqua. (Make a backup first. Those unused csets near the bottom of every palatte page are for palatte cycling. But I just use them for backups. ;) )

[Demimore]

Yes. Who would like to use pallette cycling? That's not my thing! :highfive: I will take a look at those pallettes and see if they're that bad. Might do something to fix it, if they look bad, of course. :)

[Raichu86]

1. Ice Dungeon colors not right
They look best if you use them with the 3rd set of dungeon walls.

2. Hard to rip into
I never noticed it being hard to rip into, after all, I did rip everything in the Tileset into those palletes. :p

3. Entrance is ugly
How about this one?

http://www.purezc.com/Stuff/NewEntrance.gif
http://www.purezc.com/Stuff/NewEntrance.bmp

That'll be included in the next Pure Tileset release. You can rip it now if you want.

[ShadowTiger]

Looking nice, Raichu. The set is good enough already, even if the ice temple is purple. Heck, I'm pretty sure you could do something great with a purple ice cave. Imagine the possibilities! Like a crystal that makes the whole dungeon kinda freaky, and ghost-filled. Cool.

[Teilyr]

That's still ugly. The yellow on brown just doesn't look right at all. Try matching the color of the sun glow with the dungeon palette.

http://teilyr.netfirms.com/zelda020.GIFhttp://teilyr.netfirms.com/zelda021.GIF
http://teilyr.netfirms.com/zelda022.GIFhttp://teilyr.netfirms.com/zelda023.GIF

http://teilyr.netfirms.com/zelda020.GIF
http://teilyr.netfirms.com/zelda021.GIF
http://teilyr.netfirms.com/zelda022.GIF
http://teilyr.netfirms.com/zelda023.GIF

The very bottom part of the entrance doesn't follow my suggestion, but that's only because I was too friggin' lazy to change it.

By the way, BH4 - You talk too damn much. :tongue:

[Raichu86]

Yeah... that does look a lot better. I guess I'll do that. Thanks Tei. :)

[ShadowTiger]

With all due respect Teilyr, please watch your words. You don't know how much harm you are doing with them, even if you put a smily after it.

[Teilyr]

I think you need to lighten up, ole chap. :) I wasn't saying it was wrong, or that you needed to stop. I just stated something that was true to me. Don't think much about it. You'll sleep better.

[ShadowTiger]

Thank you for the reassurance, Teilyr. I appreciate it. I will sleep. I will ... sleep.


...... *click* back on topic.

Where did you get the idea for the purple L6 colors? Is there already an ice palatte? I can't check right now.

[Demimore]

I checked it .... I dont know what you think look bad. I cant find anything bad looking in the tileset. Bye! :)

[ShadowTiger]

The Purple colored dungeon isn't suitable for ice. That's what the thread is about.

[Ganonator]

No, BH4, you are completely mistaken ;) (i've always wanted to say that) in my screenshot post, the purple was a custom palette I did just for that level. As for the actual Ice palace colors (#6), well, something doesn't quite jive with it.. here take a look

http://members.fortunecity.com/ganonator1/1.gif
http://members.fortunecity.com/ganonator1/1.gif
the colors are grainy.

As for the gray entrance tiles I spoke of earlier, it is noted in this shot
http://members.fortunecity.com/ganonator1/7.gif
http://members.fortunecity.com/ganonator1/7.gif
where it is circled green, that is true for every color set. I don't know why, maybe i got a messed up one.

Raichu - i mean when taking tiles from Orion's set, its all off by one. Its a bugger to recolor.

[KJAZZ]

Yes, Teilyr's look a helluva lot better. I don't even use this tileset or those Entrance things anyway, but for the people that use it, it's a vast improvement.

[raptorscyther]

Just change the colours, I found that it was grainy and too bright. Ice is bright but that is tooo bright, so I softned them a bit, and they work fine.

Softned as in: Made white really Light Blue and made the rest of the colours closer together in RGB value. And for the doors, etc, i changed the wood to bluish grey and the frame to silvery blue. (all these new colours!) And because the Torch tile uses the old yellow colour, the blue made it look like blue fire! Bonus!

And Teilyr, those entrances do rock, gotta agree there!

[ShadowTiger]

Yes. Thank you Ganonator. I AM completely wrong, aren't I then. .......

Well that's good to know. The 'shots look good. Keep up the good work.