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AlexMax
10-28-2002, 10:24 PM
You will never guess how much these guys overclocked a 486 SX 25 megahertz computer to...

http://totl.net/Eunuch/index.html

247 FRIGGIN MEGAHERTZ!!!

Now that's sick. Also, yes, that is some of the shit that geeks do in their spare time. Who knew being a geek could be so much fun?

Breaker
10-28-2002, 10:29 PM
Eh, are you a wannabe geek? :|

Dracula
10-28-2002, 10:31 PM
shit

WarOmnimon
10-28-2002, 10:34 PM
Holy poop on a stick! As far as I know, not even my computer genius buddy could do that...

Foxx
10-28-2002, 10:35 PM
That is rather impressive. Brilliant use of lagers and malt liquors too... although I'm puzzled as to how this procedure could boil 8 bottles of frozen alcoholic beverages...

DukenukemX
10-29-2002, 01:31 AM
This must be a hoax for a good few reasons. I mean this is not possible. Not with there setup.

First what kind of motherboard that uses a 486 SX to allow a clock speed of 247 Mhz? I don't think a motherboard that old can even allow 100 Mhz without some moding. When you increase the clock speed you do need to increase the CPU voltage. The computer can't run stable without more voltage.

Second he said he got GLquake and Halflife to run on that PC. Thats impossible at any clock speed. First Quake requires a 486 with a math coprocessor to run. The only CPU's at the time that came with it are a 486 at 100 Mhz and Pentiums. A 486 SX is hardly considered a 32-bit chip and does not come with a math coprocessor. Halflife shouldn't run either since it would have the same requirements as quake and probably uses some Pentium instructions to boot.

Finally no one has been able to overclock that high just by stuffing a PC into a freezer. It just doesn't make sense. You make the air cold around the CPU but it doesn't directly remove the heat from the CPU fast enough. Thats why professional overclockers use water cooling. The water gets pumped so it removes heat plus water is a better conducter of heat then cold air. I have seen people poor liquid nitrogen on top of a CPU to cool it off and had to mod the motherboard to be able to get enough voltage to push P4 chips. I just don't think what they did was true.

I'm sorry to say but this is a hoax.

:edit:
Proof is in the pudding.


Quake *requires* a floating point unit, and so people with 486sx
systems or NexGen Pentium class systems will not be able to run Quake.
Note that although a 486DX4/100 sounds faster than a Pentium 60, the
latter has a far superior FPU, so is faster than the 486!


Look it up. http://www.sonic.net/~gtaylor/quakefaq.html

AtmaWeapon
10-29-2002, 01:47 AM
And actually, GLQuake requires quite the hefty system (by yesteryear's standards). The GLQuake readme says that they only could get it to run well in 640x480. I ran it on a Pentium 133 once, and couldn't even get above 5 fps. On my 233, I get about 15 fps. For them to claim GLQuake on 100Mhz is crazy. How much RAM did they have? On a 486 board, you'll be lucky if you get 32 MB. I thought it was funny, but I think it is a hoax as well.

MottZilla
10-29-2002, 01:50 AM
Sounds like BS to me.

DukenukemX
10-29-2002, 02:16 AM
Those people couldn't overclock an alarmclock.

You just can't run Quake on a 486SX at any Mhz. It would still need a FPU a.k.a math coprocessor. Many old motherboards had the option to put one in but that would also need to be overclocked. Not to forget from 25 to 247 Mhz the system bus must be like 5X faster so that means the PCI slots and memory bus could also be overclocked to hell. The memory should have burned long time ago.

Maybe they drank so much they thought they got up to 247 Mhz. ;)


The GLQuake readme says that they only could get it to run well in 640x480. I ran it on a Pentium 133 once, and couldn't even get above 5 fps. On my 233, I get about 15 fps. For them to claim GLQuake on 100Mhz is crazy.

I had a Overdrive 166MMX with a Voodoo rush and I ran GLquake fine. If you got 5 fps that might be because you were using software OpenGL instead of hardware. It must have been over 30 FPS with that old setup. I got a good 20 FPS with just regular quake using a special trick to get Vesa 2.0 on my old S3 Trio 64. Thats when I had a P90. Ahh those were the days. :drool:

mike5000
10-29-2002, 02:11 PM
What is GLQuake? I had the normal Quake on my P200mhz soo... long ago

obi
10-29-2002, 02:22 PM
AH yes, I enjoyed playing (and completeing) quake on my old P120, (had 64 mb RAM and the GFX card wasn't at all great but It ran 'okay' at 640x480). That site may not be true, but good for a quick laugh.

Also some of those pics are quite funny -
http://totl.net/Eunuch/compinfreezer3a.jpg

DukenukemX
10-29-2002, 02:49 PM
What is GLQuake? I had the normal Quake on my P200mhz soo... long ago


A modified quake.exe that can use opengl32.dll. In other words you can use your kick ass video card to get better graphics and more speed.

If you got a kick ass computer setup then you can try running Tenebrae (http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/). It makes the Quake engine look like Doom 3 but you need at least a Geforce 2 or Radeon to run this. Looks real nice. :D

See (http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/shots5/quake93.jpg) for yourself. ;)

Masamune
10-29-2002, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by obi
AH yes, I enjoyed playing (and completeing) quake on my old P120, (had 64 mb RAM and the GFX card wasn't at all great but It ran 'okay' at 640x480). That site may not be true, but good for a quick laugh.

Also some of those pics are quite funny -
http://totl.net/Eunuch/compinfreezer3a.jpg

that looks just like the inside of my computer!

DragonFang
10-29-2002, 08:27 PM
What the hell were they thinking!!!!! They forgot to install the nitrogen cooling unit up there. And the (are days) crappy parts just add up to complete meltdown. There lucky they dident over heat them selfs.

MottZilla
10-29-2002, 08:49 PM
Duke, while the quality is very good in that pic, it's not near the phsyical detail of Doom 3. The weapon looks horribly blocky.

gdorf
10-29-2002, 10:20 PM
This (http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/cpu/northwood2200/ln2/) is the way to do it. These guys got a p4 to 3675MHz!

http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/cpu/northwood2200/ln2/3.jpg

EDIT: Fixed the image code for ya -AlexMax

DukenukemX
10-29-2002, 11:18 PM
Posted by Mottzilla
Duke, while the quality is very good in that pic, it's not near the phsyical detail of Doom 3. The weapon looks horribly blocky.

Did you download and run it? I mean Doom 3 has way better graphics but what can you expect when Quake has textures no larger then 256X256 and the color is in 256.

The creator of tenebrae did modify it so it can use larger textures and 32-bit color but that depends on the people who make textures and models.

Like for example here (http://www.planetquake.com/quakeremodeled/weapons.html) are some people trying to redo the weapons in quake to look better on tenebrae.

Here (http://home.wxs.nl/~pestilence/quake16.jpg) is that dog redone for tenebrae. Kinda looks like a rip off from Doom 3. :eyebrow:

Gdof got the right idea. Those are real overclockers and they didn't over clock the machine 10X over. With liquid nitrogen they got a 2.2 gigahertz P4 to 3.675 Mhz. Even with liquid nitrogen and a modified motherbaord they didn't even make the CPU 2X faster. Not some shit rigged fridge with beer bottles covering the PC.