type of government

[Paradox]

what type of government appeals the most to you? i think a democracy is not always good, it leaves too much room for corruption. some type of socialism without any true leader to be "superior" (not communism) would probably be the best, although it has been known "in theory it seems good, but real life it would never work"

[Korn Guy]

social anarchy, unfortunitally the human race is not currantlly evolved enough to cary out this idea peacfully.

[Menokh]

Socialist democracy.
The closest thing we have now is Canada, but even that needa alot of work before it fits the definition.

A socialist democracy is a democracy with elected leaders, but they have some more socialist values. There would be universal healthcare(like in Canada); and the government would pay each adult a small amount of money each month for minimal work, if someone wanted more money(which they would seeing as they would only get enough to barely live on from the government) that person would go and get an actual job. There would be a constitution with somewhat similar rules as ours; like free speech and press, freedom of religion, right to a fair trail, etc. There would be a downside though, just like Canada has for it's universal healthcare, you can guess what that would be.

It's sorta hard to explain; and I didn't think of it first either, Robert Heinlein did back in 1947.

[Beldaran]

An objectivist free market. The government provides a police force, and army, and that's it. Their job is to enforce laws (including anti trust, labor laws, and human rights abuses) and nothing else.

[Trusso]

Beldaran in that country who builds the roads, and such? As for me, I would like to see a blind of communisum and democtricy, elected leaders, that set fair work standards based on peoples phisical ablilty, unfortuantly that wont work.

[Daarkseid]

Socialism fails to work when its aim is to supplant a market based economy. A "command economy" doesn't work too well because its slow to react to people's needs, inefficient, and too prone to stagnation. People in this country are always blaming the government for incompetency, corruption, and not getting anything that needs to be done, done. Could you imagine then, this government planning our economy? Setting prices, building infrastructure, appointing government committees to run our industries and maybe certain crucial businesses?

European socialism, as in the raising of taxes for public works and welfare programs works out fine because despite these programs, market economies still exist. Individuals still own businesses, and many heavy industries still remain in the hands of individuals.

Lately, Europe has had to scale back these social programs because of slow economic growth and stagnation.

What Menokh describes sounds feasible since it appears that neither representative government, nor market economies are dissolved. Its market economies that are the most productive, creating jobs and wealth, and raising the standard of living. Government can then go about the business of providing meager benefits to those who need them, in the areas of welfare, healthcare(should be universal, but not necessarily supplant private medicine) and perhaps even labor regulations.

Ultimately though, these social programs should come second to the market driven economy. It is afterall, taxes generated from people making money that pay for social programs.

In the end though, despite clinging to idealistic systems that provide everything to everybody and solve all our problems, we will not see an end all to alot of problems we see. We will either have to deal them for the moment, or some economic, social, or scientific revolution in the future will obliterate the problem.

[Beldaran]

Originally posted by Trusso
Beldaran in that country who builds the roads, and such?


Microsoft. hehe just kidding. I suppose the government could build roads. The tax rate necessary to fund the millitary, police, and basic infrastructure (roads,etc.) would be somewhere in the nieghborhood of a 9% flat tax. Plus, everything would be higher quality because companies would be competing for your busines.

[Menokh]

Originally posted by Daarkseid
.

What Menokh describes sounds feasible since it appears that neither representative government, nor market economies are dissolved. Its market economies that are the most productive, creating jobs and wealth, and raising the standard of living. Government can then go about the business of providing meager benefits to those who need them, in the areas of welfare, healthcare(should be universal, but not necessarily supplant private medicine) and perhaps even labor regulations.


YES! Someone understands what I was trying to say.

[slothman]

If people are perfect then of course anarchy would be good. If just the leader(s) are good then a benevolent dictatorship would work. With are current people who are corruptible it would definitely have to be some sort of democracy. Referendums directly to the people would be used in some cases and representatives for most things.
The problem with Capitalism is that "you need money to make money". I think an income tax graduated at higher levels for higher amounts of income would compensate. Most people who are rich and didn't get it via gambling or lottery didn't earn all their money from actual skill but from money they already earned. The U.S. system with a heavily graduated income tax system would be reasonable but it still needs other improvements. I think the CCC (civilian conservation corps) from the depression should be brought back. It could guarantee a job and living space for everybody who needs it. The actual method of electing officials would need to be changed to accommodate the fact that most people are either stupid, don't care, or don't have enough info to make good decisions. When I voted in 2000 there was plenty of info on national candidates but as it got more local the info was less.

[inori]

What type of government appeals the most to me?

An absolute dictatorship, with me in charge. :D

[Axel]

democratic republic. its the only thing that works. the representatives have to go with what people want if they want to stay in office, and there are enough different people involved that anything is viewed from so many points of view that it's difficult to corrupt the system, everyone is trying to stop everyone else.

socialism doesn't work. human nature makes it impossible. if a person's paycheck is garunteed, then they never work. and without competition, humans aren't driven to innovate.

[Paradox]

the only way some sort of socialism would work is if you take a very limited number of people who are willing to cooperate (and you can trust them). then have the ideals passed on to the children, who would know not much evil, since they were raised in a (rather small, for it to all work) country where everyone worked together for all of mankind.

[Axel]

even then, human nature would kick in, do as little work as possible. there have to be rewards and punishments for people to work.