The Silent Assassin
04-13-2002, 11:04 PM
For many of you, AGN is...a way of life. Half of us depend on it. Half of you don't. Some of you are so addicted...you'd fight everything that stood in your way to keep posting...
This is my 5th Forum/Club to be a part of. I was a prominent member in each, and I spent a good amount of time in each, no less than year. Some were bigger than AGN, some a great deal smaller.
Yet, they all followed the same pattern. They all perished to self destruction. Hopefully, somehow AGN can avoid this...but with recent events...I believe it has set in motion the path that will probably end AGN, or change it in a drastic way, forever.
You see, the first forum I joined was Nintendo's forums. It wasn't as nice as AGN, but it was structured. You'd go around and post about each game, and the NOAs would mod the place. Well, there weren't any...leaders...cuz the NOAs were the heads, but a certain "group" did become the ruling bunch. Everything went great for about a year. Then some newbies came and challened the "group". The asked why should they run things, that they weren't the true leaders.
Though they had a point, they just wanted to cause trouble. It worked. Everyone started to fight. Loyal people would question there "faith" in the forums. The "group" would use slandering to persuade people. In the end, the forums were shut down by NOA because it got too out of hand.
Well, there was once. But I joined another group then. A StarFox group called the CEF
http://www.armageddongames.com/images/tsa/cef.gif
We were a bunch of peeps who liked StarFox. We got together, made a web page and had a hosted forum. We had a leader, and even "ranks" for the most "hard working" members. Well, again...everything went well. Then...people just get tired of the same thing, the complain. The heads argue back. It's nothing at first, but then it builds up. Finally, we had people mud slinging, everyone was questioning everybody. The club became a wreck, and the owner, Frankenroc, decided to move on and shut the place down.
Then, a bunch of us who took one side in the argument formed a private Yahoo club.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/thelylatalliance/cb5429e1.jpg?grn2NcPBZ1w9ZQbk
We thought by only being private by invite only, it would work. Well, it seemed the two creators of the club (very similar to the friendship Goatboy and WL had) got into arguments, and then split. There was a member just like Moocow (and in the same situation) with the head of the board...heh, it was freaky noticing the similarities, but anyway...
Of our 40 members, almost all have an identical twin I've seen here at AGN in terms of attitude. Well, to the point...something like "this" happend. The head guy didn't show up a lot. People would quesiton him, thoughts of "rebellion" came up, and then people would execute verbal attacks on the head guy. Bans would be issued, and people would be pissed. Well, the club ended in flames, as the leader "deleted" it from the server...
Then we go to ZHQ. Conrad was heading it at the time. He had good motivations and intentions. Didn't get muchd one...and well...ZHQ suffered and peope started to bitch. Anyway, in strolled Niels...who ZHQ was built on by all the staff, not just him "Rod Jones did all Zelda 3 area, and this girl named JADE did the Zelda 5, and Chibi did letters, and so on and so on". Niels decides we aren't worthy enough...we've lost "sight" of the true meaning of Zelda.
http://www.armageddongames.com/images/tsa/zelda.gif
Anyone here think I "don't" know the meaning of Zelda? I mean, I have NO CLUE what Zelda is about, nor why it should be appreciated? No, I'm another clue less fan boy who just talks a lot but doesn't know jack about Zelda.
Well...by the tone of my passage, I wrote a nice "goodbye" letter to niels, telling him he was shit, ZHQ would die, and he was a disgrace to Zelda. He said I was wrong, and he'd have the last laugh. Look who's laughing now (ZHQ never went anywhere under his 2nd reign, and died).
In case you do see the point, it's that clubs run their course and end. When it is just for fun, but you get too serious and there isn't enough motivation to keep it going cuz it is just a hobby, everything falls apart. I'm not saying AGN will, or anytime soon. But you have to face reality, guys. AGN won't last forever.
And with that, I'll conclude with...
"All good things must end."
This is my 5th Forum/Club to be a part of. I was a prominent member in each, and I spent a good amount of time in each, no less than year. Some were bigger than AGN, some a great deal smaller.
Yet, they all followed the same pattern. They all perished to self destruction. Hopefully, somehow AGN can avoid this...but with recent events...I believe it has set in motion the path that will probably end AGN, or change it in a drastic way, forever.
You see, the first forum I joined was Nintendo's forums. It wasn't as nice as AGN, but it was structured. You'd go around and post about each game, and the NOAs would mod the place. Well, there weren't any...leaders...cuz the NOAs were the heads, but a certain "group" did become the ruling bunch. Everything went great for about a year. Then some newbies came and challened the "group". The asked why should they run things, that they weren't the true leaders.
Though they had a point, they just wanted to cause trouble. It worked. Everyone started to fight. Loyal people would question there "faith" in the forums. The "group" would use slandering to persuade people. In the end, the forums were shut down by NOA because it got too out of hand.
Well, there was once. But I joined another group then. A StarFox group called the CEF
http://www.armageddongames.com/images/tsa/cef.gif
We were a bunch of peeps who liked StarFox. We got together, made a web page and had a hosted forum. We had a leader, and even "ranks" for the most "hard working" members. Well, again...everything went well. Then...people just get tired of the same thing, the complain. The heads argue back. It's nothing at first, but then it builds up. Finally, we had people mud slinging, everyone was questioning everybody. The club became a wreck, and the owner, Frankenroc, decided to move on and shut the place down.
Then, a bunch of us who took one side in the argument formed a private Yahoo club.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/thelylatalliance/cb5429e1.jpg?grn2NcPBZ1w9ZQbk
We thought by only being private by invite only, it would work. Well, it seemed the two creators of the club (very similar to the friendship Goatboy and WL had) got into arguments, and then split. There was a member just like Moocow (and in the same situation) with the head of the board...heh, it was freaky noticing the similarities, but anyway...
Of our 40 members, almost all have an identical twin I've seen here at AGN in terms of attitude. Well, to the point...something like "this" happend. The head guy didn't show up a lot. People would quesiton him, thoughts of "rebellion" came up, and then people would execute verbal attacks on the head guy. Bans would be issued, and people would be pissed. Well, the club ended in flames, as the leader "deleted" it from the server...
Then we go to ZHQ. Conrad was heading it at the time. He had good motivations and intentions. Didn't get muchd one...and well...ZHQ suffered and peope started to bitch. Anyway, in strolled Niels...who ZHQ was built on by all the staff, not just him "Rod Jones did all Zelda 3 area, and this girl named JADE did the Zelda 5, and Chibi did letters, and so on and so on". Niels decides we aren't worthy enough...we've lost "sight" of the true meaning of Zelda.
http://www.armageddongames.com/images/tsa/zelda.gif
Anyone here think I "don't" know the meaning of Zelda? I mean, I have NO CLUE what Zelda is about, nor why it should be appreciated? No, I'm another clue less fan boy who just talks a lot but doesn't know jack about Zelda.
Well...by the tone of my passage, I wrote a nice "goodbye" letter to niels, telling him he was shit, ZHQ would die, and he was a disgrace to Zelda. He said I was wrong, and he'd have the last laugh. Look who's laughing now (ZHQ never went anywhere under his 2nd reign, and died).
In case you do see the point, it's that clubs run their course and end. When it is just for fun, but you get too serious and there isn't enough motivation to keep it going cuz it is just a hobby, everything falls apart. I'm not saying AGN will, or anytime soon. But you have to face reality, guys. AGN won't last forever.
And with that, I'll conclude with...
"All good things must end."