Rants, phase 2; 'Communism'....in chinese!

[Cronic]

You really need to get a grip Meta. This whole rant thing youre doing lately is getting to be very immature.

[Menokh]

The simple fact is communism is excellent in theory, but doesn't fucking work in practice.
It's simply impossible.

Of course so is pure capitalism.:shrug:

I for one am semi-socialist, and believe in things like a default payment every month(barely enough to get by), and if you aren't happy with it you would work like you do now to get extra cash.

bleh.... china is fucked... North Korea is fucked....

All I know is come 2012 lots of things had better change or we will regret it.

[inori]

My girlfriend is from China ... why don't you ask her?

In my opinion, the Chinese government is fundamentally unstable, and will collapse sooner or later of its own accord (much like the Soviet Union). When that will happen is anyone's guess. The process isn't helped along much by the typical Chinese cultural mentality...

Of course, the other questions are how violent will the collapse be, and what will come in afterward.

[MetaStaiford]

aye, i see your point about communism, it's basically what i think about it sometimes.

"Communism is the perfect government... until you add PEOPLE into it."



i see your idea about the dafault payment, and have to say that would be a perfect way or money management. that way, instead of america's you get what you pay for, it would be 'you get what you work for'. That would prevent greedy CEOs from ruling the world in terms of economical power.


And inori, the problem with that is chances are when China collapses like that, tis likely to be a large part of world war 3, and we DONT need another world war.

MANY of the famous psychics of the world, and the not-so-famous myself predict the world's ULTIMATE end in 2010-2014. (100000 human survivors on the entire planet at the most) Need i say more about when we need to end anger, hate and bigotry to save our own lives?

[Gerudo]

looks like the whole world pops in this phrase:

"we'll cross htat bridge when we get there"

personally, i dont think its gonna work. the middle east is a bunch of bullcrap, and i bet they dont know WHY they are fighting. the chinese gov't im not gonna comment on, cuz i dont know much about it, but i guess it sucks. if there is a WW3, then it looks like we're all fucked... because with current military technology, you could wipe out an entire country with one, possibly 2 missiles... :shrug:

[Syntax Error]

So you don't like Communism, and you could never stand living in a Communist country yourself, being that you have grown accustomed to a democratic lifestyle? Well, take into consideration that a very large portion of China lives and has grown accustomed to a Communist way of life. What makes you think they wouldn't think any less negatively about switching over to Democracy?

I think what everyone has to take into consideration before they pass judgment on other countries and their government is that Democracy can't always work for everyone, and likewise, everyone might not -WANT- Democracy.

The big question is, if China wasn't Communist, would that large a country manage as well as it does now, or would it actually manage worse? Maybe Communism is actually -better- for China from an economical and agricultural standpoint.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is that we should just appreciate our way of life as a democracy more in light of countries that lack our own democratic rights, and leave it at that. We have grown up in our society with it's freedoms, command economy, and capitalism; so it works for us. We would never want anyone to take away - or criticize - our way of life. It's the same with China; the people there grew up in a Communist country, with a Communist way of life and business, and they have grown accustomed to their own way of life. This also makes them custom to their own differentiating modern culture from our own.

When we begin to so vehemently pass judgment on things like the government, lifestyle and business of another country, we use our own way of life as an example, thinking in our own elitist heads that our way of life is automatically the best, and every country should model themselves after our own. You know what that leads to? The public support of IMPERIALISM, which is something far, far worse than Communism could ever be in China.

It just doesn't work that way.. cultures and people change, and likewise, their forms of government change to accommodate them. Our way of government works for us, and China's no matter how limiting, works for them. Sure, Communism in China might not be what Communism was originally envisioned to, but you know what? The US isn't a direct-democracy either, and likewise, we've changed Capitalism to accommodate to us.

So before you sanctimoniously go bashing Communism, take into consideration that a-lot of people actually LIKE Communism, and it is a part of their way of life there. You as an American (or whatever citizen you are) have no right to totally criticize the way of life of another country, because you're not Chinese, and you didn't grow up in that country.

Oh, and I'd just like to correct something: China is no longer considered a Communist country; due to the economical changes there, it is best categorized as Fascist.

[Zeo]

Originally posted by MetaStaiford
Alright, heres the deal. I'm really ******* ******* today, so if you think i'm too ******, just **** off and leave dis thread now or yer gonna burst out in tears from emotion breakdown. Here's the story. I've had to deal with some un-needed troubles for the past 2-3 days now, but even worse is not only is my mic still on the blink (hence this being typed), but my PRINTER ****** up too!


What!?! You found speaking to type software THAT WORKS!?!?!

Wow......that would be so nice.

Now as to China. China is going to change thier tune sometime soon.
Reasons

1. They REFUSE to let go of Tiwan. Now Tiwan has been indepdent for a LONG time. THere is NO reason for China to attempt to bully the UN into forcing Tiwan to jion them.

2. There is an acute shortage of younger women in China. This is due to the one child policy, everyone wants a MALE child.

3. Despite thier HUGE population, problem2 combined with MASSIVE illegal emmigration to other countries will eventauly cuase the goverment grief.

Plus, the world does NOT stand still for China, the Chinese people may not get to see what the rest of the world deos, but that deosn't stop the tales of what freedoms exist even just outside the borders.

[DarkDragoonX]

Just as long as we don't get into a war with China... they have so many people they could take over the world armed with nothing but sticks and small rocks.

[Toolie]

Originally posted by Meta Staiford
MANY of the famous psychics of the world, and the not-so-famous myself predict the world's ULTIMATE end in 2010-2014. (100000 human survivors on the entire planet at the most) Need i say more about when we need to end anger, hate and bigotry to save our own lives?

Miss Cleo and her friends got together and said the worlds going to end in 10 years? C'mon man, this is almost as believable as the "apocolypse in 2000" deal. :rolleyes:

[NerdWarrior]

Jigglysaint has the perfect reason why communism sucks:

People suck!
Heh, I couldn't help it. It's true.

[Daarkseid]

Unfortunately, we could be content to let China live on as Communists, but the fact remains, its a totalitarian system that does not afford their own people any real say in government policy, only the Party's opinion, and not everybody is affluent enough to join the Party or be active in the party.

You may also remember Tiannanmen Square in 1989, where Chinese students attempted a peaceful demonstration for a more democratic government, and the Communist government responded by using severe military force. That is what I find disturbing about allowing China to remain Communist. The government does not accord to any sort of law or constitution that recognizes human rights to the level that Europe or even the United States does. If China were to ever start to exert its influence outside its borders, like America does, what is to stop them from using much more brutal manners of maintaining order and intervention than the Americans do?

The chinese people may not be chafing under Communist rule as much as pro-American, pro-capitalist, or pro-democratic groups say, but the fact China is close to the point of being able to exert its influence over countries OUTSIDE itself is what can be found to be disturbing.

I would hate to see China create a sort of East Asian bloc among its neighbors, much like the Soviets did with Eastern Europe, though that is an unlikelyhood. Right now China's president has been overlooking certain transgressions from America in hopes of earning our trust to a certain level, and to gain international respectability as a legitimate national power. This means China has to restrain from taking severe measures that non-totalitarian systems would frown upon.