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Breaker
04-06-2002, 01:07 AM
Some of you may have known that I've been away for the past two days resulting from computer technicalities. When I resolved the problem and got my computer back up I received some rather disturbing information from a few AGN staff members.

It seems Nightmare has been registering all my alternate nicks (I use BreKKar quite often as a secondary nick) on the IRC chat server and planned on impersonating me in #AGN in an attempt to get me banned/demodded.

The following are just a few random excerpts from the logs given to me by anonymous AGNers;


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Channel: #AGN

[22:18] *** NJames ([email protected]) has joined #AGN
[10:47] <NJames> Yeah, I registred Breaker's alternate nick
<·15:12:43·> *** Joins: breKKar ([email protected])

Channel: #GU

<·15:11:06·@NJames·> Hey, I got an evil idea:
<·15:11:15·@NJames·> I'm going to pose as the fake Breaker
<·15:11:30·@NJames·> How's that for an idea?
<·15:11:34·@NJames·> Watch
<·15:11:37·@Dark_Jim-GU·> COOL

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According to the server's rules and regulations, it is unacceptable behavior to impersonate and or steal a known user's nick.


(Ü) - Network Rules
(Ü) -
(Ü) - - No harrasment of user/staff. This includes racism,
(Ü) - sexism or general bullying.
(Ü) - - No 'open' porn or warez channels. These types of
(Ü) - channels are only allowed when set +s (secret)
(Ü) - - No kiddie porn will be tolerated anywhere on this
(Ü) - network. It's immoral and in very bad taste.
(Ü) - (akills will be put in place for this).
(Ü) - - No nickname stealing or channel takeovers. Get your
(Ü) - own nicknames and channels!
(Ü) - - Please respect that there may be younger chatters
(Ü) - around and respect thier innocence.
(Ü) -
(Ü) - ** Use of this server is a privilege not a right. You
(Ü) - can't sue us for banning you.
(Ü) - ** If your channel is set +s (secret), this stuff is
(Ü) - enforced with far more leniency.
(Ü) - ** If you're interested in linking, email tnb at
(Ü) - [email protected] and tell him what you're
(Ü) - wanting to link and any other relivant information
(Ü) - about your server.


Not only did he register my alternate nicks, but he faked his information to make it look as if it were me;

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[22:18] *** NJames ([email protected]) has joined #AGN

Whowas breKKar
breKKar was [email protected] * Breaker

breKKar using storm.ca.us.theLiberation.net Fri Apr 5 23:14:22 2002
breKKar using storm.ca.us.theLiberation.net Fri Apr 5 16:15:07 2002

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I've discussed the situation with many IRCops but since he uses the AOL Internet Provider they cannot Akill him.

I can't possibly see this act of sabotage go unpunished, so I ask your oppinions on what should be done.

MetaStaiford
04-06-2002, 01:16 AM
i ask that you please give us some slightly more reliable proof that the whammy did that. i've been in the chat a couple times in the past 2 days, and last i checked, decipher was 'brekkar', and he was switching nicks so much someone threatened to boot him, probably moocow.

and there no whowas command. just a WhoIs

i'll believe you when i see a bit more accurate proof.

whoa...wait... nitemare uses AOL? i learn something new everyday

(was anyone keeping a FULL log of the past 2 days?)

Breaker
04-06-2002, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by MetaStaiford
i ask that you please give us some slightly more reliable proof that the whammy did that. i've been in the chat a couple times in the past 2 days, and last i checked, decipher was 'brekkar', and he was switching nicks so much someone threatened to boot him, probably moocow.

and there no whowas command. just a WhoIs

i'll believe you when i see a bit more accurate proof.

whoa...wait... nitemare uses AOL? i learn something new everyday

(was anyone keeping a FULL log of the past 2 days?)

Yes, there is a whowas command.
Yes, there were quite a few keeping a full log.
Yes, the fact that he admitted to it is proof enough.
No, you don't know jack shit about IRC and I ask that you avoid any further display of ignorance.

Zaphod Q. IX
04-06-2002, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by MetaStaiford
i ask that you please give us some slightly more reliable proof that the whammy did that. i've been in the chat a couple times in the past 2 days, and last i checked, decipher was 'brekkar', and he was switching nicks so much someone threatened to boot him, probably moocow.

and there no whowas command. just a WhoIs

i'll believe you when i see a bit more accurate proof.

whoa...wait... nitemare uses AOL? i learn something new everyday

(was anyone keeping a FULL log of the past 2 days?)
Ummm...yes there is a whowas command
http://www.soulfactory.com/capture.gif
and there's mine.

Dark Nation
04-06-2002, 01:24 AM
Someone is awfully protective of his privacy, isn't he? (Referring to the blue stripes) :D

cyberkitten
04-06-2002, 01:33 AM
the information i have backs this up as well:

this is information from thelib's server logs for the past 48 hours:
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breKKar was [email protected] * Breaker
breKKar using storm.ca.us.theLiberation.net Fri Apr 5 23:14:22 2002
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breKKar was [email protected] * Breaker
breKKar using storm.ca.us.theLiberation.net Fri Apr 5 16:15:07 2002
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breKKar was [email protected] * Breaker
breKKar using storm.ca.us.theLiberation.net Thu Apr 4 11:01:44 2002
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breKKar was [email protected] * Breaker
breKKar using storm.ca.us.theLiberation.net Thu Apr 4 00:59:54 2002
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breKKar was [email protected] * Breaker
breKKar using storm.ca.us.theLiberation.net Wed Apr 3 19:31:32 2002
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breKKar was [email protected] * Breaker
breKKar using storm.ca.us.theLiberation.net Wed Apr 3 18:23:27 2002
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breKKar was [email protected] * Breaker
breKKar using storm.ca.us.theLiberation.net Wed Apr 3 18:17:54 2002
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breKKar was [email protected] * nWo Whammy
breKKar using storm.ca.us.theLiberation.net Wed Apr 3 18:15:24 2002
End of WHOWAS

AOL does not use static IPs. Your information changes slightly each time you log onto their server. The IP information for April 3 is all identical, indicating that it was the same person. It is possible to change the "Ilkerman/nWoWhammy" and "*Breaker/*nWo" information just by disconnecting from mIRC, changing the identifying fields and reconnecting.

After checking the server records for nickname services, it shows that the nickname "breKKar was registered on wednesday april 3rd at 6:pm EST (see below). The last IP address to use this nick (see below) matches the IP that nightmare was using earlier this evening. [21:33] *** NJames ([email protected]) has joined #AGN

[23:33] -NickServ- breKKar is Breaker
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[23:33] -NickServ- Last seen address: [email protected]
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[23:33] -NickServ- Time registered: Apr 03 18:13:10 2002 EST
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[23:33] -NickServ- Last seen time: Apr 05 23:14:22 2002 EST
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[23:33] -NickServ- Last quit message: Quit: Viva la Goat!


this is breaker's current identifying information according to thelib. it is not Ilkerman@

Breaker is [email protected] * Breaker
Breaker is a registered nick
Breaker on #services *#Bar&Grill @#TheFarm %#AGN
Breaker using storm.ca.us.theLiberation.net It's Time To Burn!!!
Breaker has been idle 1min 49secs, signed on Fri Apr 05 23:27:48
Breaker End of /WHOIS list.
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I was also in the chat at the time nightmare was claiming to have registered "breKKar". This is the context surrounding breaker's excerpt above:

[10:42] <NJames> Hey OL, should I release "my evil project?"
[10:42] <ElementalKnight> With some Sword Magic thrown in from FF5.
[10:43] <Overlord> your evil project? hmm.. if I remembered what it was maybe..
[10:43] * Overlord curses his memory
[10:43] <NJames> What I did in GU the other day:
[10:43] <NJames> (hint hint)
[10:43] <Overlord> ah! sure
[10:44] *** breKKar ([email protected]) has joined #AGN
[10:44] <ElementalKnight> Hi Shadowbreaker.
[10:44] <NJames> It's really not Breaker though
[10:44] <Overlord> hehe, we can beat the crap out of him all we like!
[10:44] <ElementalKnight> :D
[10:45] <NJames> If you want to pound on him, come to GU
[10:45] *** breKKar ([email protected]) has left #AGN
[10:45] <ElementalKnight> THat was such a setup...
[10:46] <Overlord> heh, yeah, I'm gonna beat the crap out of him in #GU soon
[10:46] <NJames> What'cha think Elemental Knight?
[10:46] <ElementalKnight> Meh, okay. Same server as this one>
[10:46] <ElementalKnight> *?
[10:47] <NJames> Yeah, I registred Breaker's alternate nick

if theliberation tries to AKILL nightmare, it will not allow any AOL users onto the server.
i agree that something needs to be done, as this was obviously done intentionally and maliciously

Glenn the Great
04-06-2002, 01:45 AM
Nightmare shall be kept out of the chatroom for the next week. Also, Nightmare is to PM or Email Breaker with an apology. Once the apology is made and the time served, he may come back to AGN chat.

Nightmare
04-06-2002, 01:54 AM
Well, I will make this clear:

I did not intend on having Breaker demodded/banned, but I did intend to impersonate him as a joke.

And Breaker doesn't deserve an apology: He deserves nothing for the way he treats members.

-NJS-

Breaker
04-06-2002, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by Nightmare
Well, I will make this clear:

I did not intend on having Breaker demodded/banned, but I did intend to impersonate him as a joke.

And Breaker doesn't deserve an apology: He deserves nothing for the way he treats members.

-NJS-

Why would you have registered the nick if you only intended for it to be a joke? Like Glenn previously mentioned, you aren't to be unbanned until I recieve an apology from you. (Btw, you are also to give me the password to said nick)

Nightmare
04-06-2002, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by Breaker


Why would you have registered the nick if you only intended for it to be a joke? Like Glenn previously mentioned, you aren't to be unbanned until I recieve an apology from you.

That was part of the joke, so you'd try to become breKKar and you'd find out you couldn't use it. :tongue:

And fat chance of you getting the password to the nick, it's registered to the e-mail [email protected]

-NJS-

Glenn the Great
04-06-2002, 02:10 AM
Nightmare, you can change the password of a registered nick. Change it to something simple then give it to Breaker. You stole one of his favorite nicks, and now you will give it back.

Nightmare
04-06-2002, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by Glenn the Great
Nightmare, you can change the password of a registered nick. Change it to something simple then give it to Breaker. You stole one of his favorite nicks, and now you will give it back.

Well, maybe Breaker now knows how it feels for when he ganged up on me before. As far as I'm concerned, he may never get it back until he apologizes for that.

-NJS-

Cyclone
04-06-2002, 02:15 AM
Can Breaker then change the e-mail address, too? Or is that not possible?

And no further comment on the above; I missed all of this, so nothing on my end. :shrug:

Cyclone

Glenn the Great
04-06-2002, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by Nightmare


Well, maybe Breaker now knows how it feels for when he ganged up on me before. As far as I'm concerned, he may never get it back until he apologizes for that.

-NJS-

Well then as far as I'm concerned, you may never get back into the chatroom.

Edit: To my knowledge, changing your EMail is possible too.

cyberkitten
04-06-2002, 02:19 AM
nightmare, you can also just drop the nickname and allow breaker to pick it up. it's real simple.
you sign on under the nick, input the password so that you're recognized, then type:

/nickserv drop breKKar

although since you seem to be well educated about nick maintenance, i'm sure it had just slipped your mind.

edit: that will also take care of the email issue, although you can change nick associations as well through services if you wish.

Nightmare
04-06-2002, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by cyberkitten
nightmare, you can also just drop the nickname and allow breaker to pick it up. it's real simple.
you sign on under the nick, input the password so that you're recognized, then type:

/nickserv drop breKKar

although since you seem to be well educated about nick maintenance, i'm sure it had just slipped your mind.

edit: that will also take care of the email issue, although you can change nick associations as well through services if you wish.

That's fair cyberkitten. I just dropped the nick. But don't expect any apologies from me, as Breaker did get what he deserved.

-NJS-

Cyclone
04-06-2002, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by cyberkitten
nightmare, you can also just drop the nickname and allow breaker to pick it up. it's real simple.
you sign on under the nick, input the password so that you're recognized, then type:

/nickserv drop breKKar

although since you seem to be well educated about nick maintenance, i'm sure it had just slipped your mind.

edit: that will also take care of the email issue, although you can change nick associations as well through services if you wish.

You can do that? Hmm.

Another good reason not to give out your nick. password to anyone. *LOL*

Cyclone

Glenn the Great
04-06-2002, 02:24 AM
Alright, we've talked about this enough. Nightmare knows what he needs to do.

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